Western Alliance Bancorporation (WAL) 19 Jul 232023 Q2 Earnings call transcript

Good day, everyone. Welcome to the Western Alliance Bancorporation’s Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call.

You may also view the presentation today via webcast or the company’s website at www.westernalliancebancorporation.com.

I would now like to turn the call over to Miles Pondelik, Director of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead.

you. Thank Western quarter to conference Bank’s Alliance welcome XXXX second call. And

Chief President today Financial Executive Bruckner, are speakers and Officer; Officer. Ken Tim Chief Our Gibbons, Vecchione, Chief Dale Officer; and Credit and

presentation assumptions. update the not call undertake company subject Ken, that which Before I any required contains uncertainties by over statements, and hand forward-looking risks, does to forward-looking as please statements. any to note obligation today’s Except to the are law,

uncertainties the that discussion differ Form complete a filings, are and the website. which results forward-looking the For available including yesterday, cause of to company’s could risks materially statements, more actual please company’s the any from filed on refer X-K to SEC

Ken Vecchione. Now turn opening for I’d to like remarks, to over the call

and morning, Miles, good everyone. Thanks,

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and $X.X a success. significant foundation ongoing deposits to grew and on objectives quarterly billion WAL financial client last our and Notably, the $X to exceeded for short-term guidance. immediate- We billion establish identified sound achieved progress sustain quarter

and diversified borrowings. Net to business growth risk $X included new of returning customers. lines wholesale growth from higher us was Growth liquidity cost allowed across and significantly reduce core deposit billion

continues sheet billion of total loan repositioning $X QX, balance in dispositions in which completed of billion billion asset execute $X.X outlined the in dispositions to WAL strategy included QX. $X expeditiously our and ahead

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basis from When CETX Bank’s capital capital issuance. or since capital XXst we and generation building XXX organic XXXX. without X.X% of XX.X% equity initially increased announced points March through on the X.X% initiatives QX

in meeting on XX%, to grow deposits long-term focus to our cultivate banks. client to banking continue of has levels we large U.S. needs to significantly leveraging highest strong relationships, Finally, order insured reciprocal core among collateralized the our deposit and third-party one lifted products

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