eHealth (EHTH) 22 Feb 192018 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q4 and Full Year 2018 eHealth Incorporated Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Ms. of President Vice Sidorovich, Investor Relations. Kate may you begin. Ma'am

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