LendingTree (TREE) 26 Apr 192019 Q1 Earnings call transcript

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the LendingTree Incorporated First Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call will be recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference Mr. Officer. Executive Chief Lebda, Doug Please go sir. ahead

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