Customers Bancorp (CUBI) 28 Apr 222022 Q1 Earnings call transcript

Good day. Thank you for standing by and welcome to the Customers Bancorp Inc., First Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers ' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. you. Thank like conference now speaker to hand Mr. today, to would over the your I Communications Customers Director The Patti, David for Bancorp. Sir, please go ahead.

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income from in basis us impact is to Just hikes interest what XXX terms what are just remind point increase you assuming in of interest net rates? rate and if can you the

that Carla, you take want to on?

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