Carvana (CVNA) 4 May 232023 Q1 Earnings call transcript

Hello and welcome to the Carvana First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Meg Kehan, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, MJ. gentlemen, Quarter you XXXX and on joining ladies First Carvana's Earnings afternoon, and for thank us Good Conference Call. this section corporate that the note call simultaneously be Please webcast Investor Relations at of website company's the investors.carvana.com. will on

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your attention. Thank for We'll take questions. now you

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Michael Next with question Evercore comes from ISI. Montani

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question Basham from Next Securities. Seth comes Wedbush with

were driven provided on March major just of drove to XXnd your what more is Can the quarter? in improvement by question first some that on us first meaningfully guidance days quarter as than insight give the gross you the you updated last results My profit. higher the

Yes. Sure.

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allowance retail is that sustainable. indicated you've not likely So the inventory

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The comes Jones Nick next from JMP Securities. with question

a follow-up Maybe maybe just the on reductions on and network. the the cost logistics impact

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Sure.

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from Next Gupta Rajat question JPMorgan. with is

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for like closing question-and-answer would CEO, to now Garcia, the back turn Ernie the concludes call to any session. This remarks. I over

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