MarketWise (MKTW) 10 Mar 222021 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Greetings and welcome to the MarketWise Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2021 Earnings Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jonathan Shanfield, Head of Investor Relations at MarketWise. Thank you. Please go ahead.

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