SoFi (SOFI) 1 May 232023 Q1 Earnings call transcript

Good morning, and thank you for attending today's SoFi First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions-and-answers at the end.

At this time, I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Maura Cyr SoFi Investor Relations. Maura, please proceed.

Thank you, and good morning. quarter conference first SoFi's to XXXX call. earnings Welcome

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