Inspirato (ISPO) 16 Mar 232022 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Inspirato's Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentations, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's call is being recorded.

I'd like -- now, I'd like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Relations. Investor Sourk, Kyle ahead. go Please

you, and good morning. Thank

today's and CFO, we Co-Founder have Handler; Brent CEO, and Web On call, Neighbor.

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the With call Web. turn over to that, I'll

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to of was due expenses increase operating in XX% loss a revenue XXXX our XX% a our as and compared cost Our primarily XXXX. in increase to

$XX of in touch moment. guidance includes aimed million loss EBITDA at to I'll number an that efficiencies million of our measures a of XXXX adjusted on improving a Our $XX

active analysis, of us and respectively, at retention, There compared Cutting daily the full year including subscribers of full between a year-end end-of-period and approximately we is retention. of XXXX, ways the was fair level year cohort review representation number and approach At those with digestible that monitoring beginning-of-period 'XX. movement retention XX,XXX reporting are, a XX%. year-end XXXX, XX,XXX year multiyear had monthly, active feel products. and prepaid simple frequent subscriptions subscribers including annual including we XX,XXX dynamics, subscriber obviously, XX,XXX, across through product In began of a and to the our we and internally, view a track entire

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in million $XXX and compared 'XX, compared the million the fourth Next, year quarter quarter to of operating 'XX in full period. the expenses, $XXX million fourth $XX were which $XX for to million

headcount expenses XXXX. revenue XX% operating high. we put, in stock-based or In Excluding made XX%. traded, of XX% million in January decision too and by $XXX $XX to revenue cost compensation publicly or million the our and associated becoming this Simply difficult of approximately with was XXXX, XXXX reduce were

of We to expect related one-time million this $XX payments the savings with XXXX first in contribute $XXX,XXX severance in approximately quarter. approximately of

a $XXX of total stock-based which comp, full reduction For year-over-year $XXX operating is XXXX, million, year expense, we million. million of excluding to $XX expect approximately

significant path but outflows to adjusted sheet. shipments, we asset direct cash CapEx cost base we on XXXX with Obviously, through proxy Shifting can flexible to $XX profitability. the EBITDA the not to our minimal cutting exited of said to year. well execute our relative year million control for be hand. We expect cash, natural as measures, against the patterns balance that, is the as and a liquidity approximately objectives be do given our have as seasonality cash we in ample lease throughout and this we lumpy booking Having requirements

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reduced portfolio growth. First,

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Hey, guys. Two questions.

the went give prior year, is, week Any can last The you week had that guys of compared to us I the a December's? one the metrics first big sales last you push. of December, know how

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year, approximately of response have the Mike, it for August. sales announced we Brent. December, think our sales think announcements a in prior the in Thanks, a for third question that Year's reallocated our in New reallocating we we push of on context first meaningful our in particularly the with Good the I Inspirato the sales new regarding every last of about Business. -- force Inspirato to Eve That mentioned that force, that began, sort initiatives to your and portion of Brent of

of retail total would our course, that And we so, with diminish then, numbers that proportionately in pipelines force. one sales anticipate reallocated would as up those new ramp sales

year-end So, sort or were I we don't that disclose of of reflective trend. day-by-day think they numbers, month-by-month while our results,

XXXX think actually Pass are guidance that diversification and path mentioned. these the You positive see that We in the our important really new tapering overall, about business overall feel and, mix Brent the demand to channels of the still of profitability. for we

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guess Thanks question. guys. I my for Hi, two. have taking I

just longer trying commitments? you're getting First, into agreement the pricing, of install the to this what to to up those existing add discussions you platform? you you're locking How customers with but in at some more lower expect quickly for color type new maybe customers on can ramp longer-term subscription on and give discount term your on

continue the -- could maybe on demand if really cash? going some Can I sales secondly, hit is then, negative year? [indiscernible] to cash or are deferred be continue Pass be burn to weak, And capital to impact color through going continue you on to that -- to for guess, working revenue? provide

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or same trip Previously, maybe of some some incentives such the people but for travel would get join they around as free credit. price, would joining form a

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