Ryan Specialty (RYAN) 16 Mar 222021 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Greetings. Welcome to the Ryan Specialty Group Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference is being recorded. the Head to Ryan of turn Angeletti, host, Specialty now and Treasurer Investor will conference your over Noah Group. I Relations for you. Thank

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