Matson (MATX) 2 Nov 222022 Q3 Earnings call transcript

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Matson Third Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. to conference like speaker to now Mr. today, would hand over the your I Fishman. Lee ahead. go please Lee,

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question [Operator line Jack Atkins you, Matt. Thank of Instructions] Our first the from comes of Stephens.

Your line is now open.

Okay, great. good Joel, my thanks questions. afternoon and Lee, taking for Matt,

Hi, Jack.

of ask, consider So I consider know I prepared would see has a your you sailing need you to guess circumstances? address reductions lane, capacity a under guess, but comment come adjustments you're schedule works, doing ever really way about could said with you XX% Matt, that maybe terms go to making any something is think what to question to backdrop to guys comments. but it's around, of sort capacity announced before in lower your would been in of something not levels that you would if It you'd the that was I tough rates. you I some I made Transpacific It's difficult of capacity? back or the the just seeing like here out consider of

for Jack question. thanks the Yes,

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we in ourselves And marketplace, demand think the line taken cycle. find lower capacity have step the so, meaningful a reducing in in I just towards the the where with

the months as coming other demand carriers, or expect market reduce the done do We said to capacity in I to level. have will

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going Sounds quarters I go couple to like be weak is on for another something that how to or could something is this guess a this persist? it's season, of peak that's going

we're hearing Yes, great I from a what question, a customers, and let and make comment me first. it's our think from general Jack

what year, balance think your new dramatic inventories is first they existing on order, peak with issue hindsight the customers heard of of their POs such benefit rather the of sheet, made ones. when we've I early saw in of the that didn't arrived cancellations season the and the half really

the saw And disruption a in so, we marketplace.

and inventory customers of progress the or themselves level the purchase is that end here the view that from while anecdotally on hearing on what, signaling a Jack, demand try orders manage signs to I their of through to are we're are think our they I increasingly at recession. what think depend is pace reducing risky as customers going which an making ultimately overhangs

there some people warehouse some base. saying So we're is hearing yes,

they're of about spring order wholesalers customers merchandise, hearing with things. forward an there's, to our saying of discussion kinds those are for in looking Some their

couple at through why we the next think we, a so but that's And lower just for be movement there'll we certainly there. said quarters, level cargo

and the this cargo and perhaps decided lots it of pace to it's recession, the we're partly after to and a happens expecting But the on, whether which commenting determined, other I recession factors, we we're this by duration answer that. and to continuing yet point, will other at not at way really we're geopolitical I be the best depth think flow things. point, what is of to what's at see guess be enter ultimately that

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Yes, a Jack. it, I to that's good at think look way

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really I the Matt. appreciate comments, for you Thank Okay. it.

Okay Jack, thanks.

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on time. Hey, Ben. the you good This for guys taking is appreciate Macalla our afternoon. questions, Thank I Rogers for

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thank Great, And so always, time. I much. as the appreciate you

thank you. Macalla, Okay,

you, now [Operator Wolfe Instructions] from your Thank proceed Please will We [indiscernible] for Macalla. have question. Jake Research.

time. for guys, Hey your thanks

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right. All your time. Thanks for

very Thanks Jake. Okay, much.

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