Ally Financial (ALLY) 19 Oct 222022 Q3 Earnings call transcript

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Ally Financial Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker’s presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. to Leary, conference Head like speakers to now Sean today, of would hand over the your I Investor Relations. ahead. go Please

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Hi, good morning.

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Yes, thanks.

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with from proceed. question of KBW. Our final the Sanjay Sakhrani comes line Please

Thanks. Good morning.

morning, Good Sanjay.

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we're something think I year, billions that. south planning of several Next for

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guys sorry intend return share as we the about how should management? think repurchase, I this. far year to next And do in as what missed and if But or terms then of you capital capital

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natural for buybacks our coming so And were expectations to be down.

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magnitude past but So that's face. deployers don't capital, of you expect like keep a disciplined of But we'll one of the or factors we the really. being saw couple year years, this

it. Appreciate Yes.

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