Kimball International (KBAL) 7 Nov 212022 Q1 Earnings call transcript

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Richard and I will be conference call facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Kimball International First Quarter Fiscal 2022 Earnings Conference Call.

As with prior conference calls, today's call, November 4, 2021, will be recorded and may contain forward-looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results could differ materially from the forward-looking statements. influence the of Kimball may be statements that in seen International factors the forward-looking outcome can Risk Form XX-K.

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