Federal Agricultural Mortgage (AGM) 11 Aug 202020 Q2 Earnings call transcript

Good day and welcome to the Farmer Mac Second Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brad Nordholm, President and CEO. ahead. go Please

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Thank you, Aparna.

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see I'd if questions line on to from the today. have anyone like now we any So

question-and-answer go come [Operator of first ahead. begin Sidoti. We question will will now the from Please Greg session. And Pendy our Instructions]

guys, thanks Hey, questions. for taking my

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Please Oat Our Tradition from of ahead. Chip Asset Management. go next question comes

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