Tandem Diabetes Care (TNDM) 21 Feb 242023 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Tandem Diabetes Care's Fourth Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the call over to EVP and Chief Administrative Officer, Susan Morrison. Please go ahead.

Hello, everyone, and thanks for joining Tandem's 2023 Fourth Quarter and Year-End Earnings Call.

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and Financial the be joined Tandem's President Executive Officer. Sheridan, I'll to CEO, by Vice call is John. over will our turn call who today's John Leading now Leigh Vosseller, Chief President and

today. Susan. Thanks, appreciate everyone us joining We

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Thanks, Leigh.

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[Operator Instructions] Please the line Our of Oppenheimer first question from Steve Steve. comes of Company. Lichtman ahead, go &

recent the Congratulations the launches. progress, on including

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Sure. Thanks, Steve.

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next Pasquale of of line Nephron comes the Our Research. from question Chris

make has quite switches the your competitive stage that facing landscape to quarter-to-quarter. some about to competitive feel the clear kind past through to has the you'd hype the but their other competitive those you bit? today? gone the of you're mix for consistent year, And initial with impact evolved versus feeling have kind stayed over a of of of like kind the field how a yourself conversions bit MDI like cycle headwinds here really Mobi the have you you Curious pretty little you're launches do launch of John,

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Bank from comes question of of of Travis next the Our Steed America. line

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to of that that accretive to margins? just when ramp Is wanted 'XX? of does on some clarity get kind And margin conviction something I year. the your happens the become Mobi over the in and So course actually

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