Golub Capital BDC (GBDC) 11 Aug 212021 Q3 Earnings call transcript

Welcome to GBDC’s June 30, 2021 Quarterly Earnings Conference Call.

Before we begin, I would like to take a moment to remind our listeners that remarks made during this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Statements other than statements of historical facts made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements and are not guarantees of future performance or results and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including those described from time to time in GBDC’s filings with the SEC.

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Hi. Good afternoon.

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