GMS (GMS) 5 Dec 242025 Q2 Earnings call transcript

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Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Carey Phelp, Vice President of Investor Relations. you. Thank

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to U.S. focused expansion in have the Products closures. our sales initiatives, to COVID, XX transactions those and total over billion approximately in products, $X Complementary model at together were $X helped adding generated in the deal of of the that and line core one-stop, $XXX adjusted of billion invested Since stucco companies accelerate these EBITDA XX on scale acquire we annualized while offerings million Tools time EIFS net and the just of Six roughly focused with our and on broad in more including primarily & broadened us place the Fasteners Canada. annualized

to drive productivity continue and profitability. improved progress make to we Finally,

annualized quarter investments of will quarter efficiency by basis, the achieve to of expect savings million during August, the achieved diligently and improvements worked our process savings savings were we run [indiscernible] possible in are third in the implement technology be prior changes. the annualized company. to $XX a On the team and closer in These the second to results remainder made realized initiatives which $XX structural half in announced Our now quarter. the other and simplification we optimization, we the of through believe roughly and cost rate cost realized for which million

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as compared sales Hurricanes commercial with year the organic to much market-driven due the multifamily a and J.T. dollars significantly, fell X.X%, U.S. primarily compared to ago. more market declined end XX.X% Milton. from declining in As to mentioned, all quarter From across a sales Helene year-over-year while commercial volumes, along X.X% perspective, lines, declines impacts product as year multifamily off declined and prior

sales slightly single-family were our hurricane hurricanes' single-family rate in bulk Fed our in up prior Also, dollars rates the but X% hardest as U.S. above hit regions, heavier single-family were below the the the expectations recent than quarter increased less results. [indiscernible] have reductions. evident year despite of impacts just mortgage the given the

$XX estimate price compared Again, volume increase Wallboard to reduction million a comprised bulk from down year, of net that same the sales partially impact a for in of $XXX.X by sales had with dollars offset X.X% in single-family greatest X.X% major the as this the decline on million last the hurricanes mix. were Wallboard. of volumes period inorganic we X.X% quarter's and

quarter basis weaker and approximately drop due decline volumes XX.X% the Wallboard that reflective conditions. were XXX remainder of volumes entirely X.X%, in in included point estimated and an volume second a year-over-year nearly Wallboard sales The reflecting X.X%. volume-driven down reduction Organically, the volumes demand with to commercial in the were single-family market hurricanes down flat multifamily

change unit were resulted mix products in lower-priced pricing first this from for calendar average despite organic again Wallboard and price. early Notwithstanding to unfavorable construction year-over-year for fiscal heightened a improvement the as in slight announced the mix that in by single-family Wallboard the team sequentially A worked flat implement board slightly in up manufacturers our towards was realized mix, the shift price quarter year. our value used actions

average slightly The feet, fiscal to we quarter where quarter ended price average similar for up the XXXX. the which XX, $XXX but square quarter X,XXX $XXX the is October on wallboard second per realized for from was

that wallboard market this half a the the increases additional XXXX. be price not in industry soft sometime into originally utilization costs [indiscernible] conditions, of the even effect year first proposed relatively current capacity expect would with in escalating fall we and environment, increases to manufacturer given mid-XXs realized in were this of renewed estimated round the is [indiscernible] While calendar

organic price to XX.X% second sales benefit up for for general volume, increase including be improvement in decrease largely can a XX.X% volume quarter quarter, data to X.X% and For health an projects but Organic in were in bright commercial sales in X.X% acquisitions, and and mix. a a activity grew facilities. slowdown price The of despite year-over-year and spots as centers volumes with this in the X.X% the some such attributed in Ceilings, care Ceilings comprised quarter, the including in X.X% decrease mix.

market that inflationary XXXX, to Looking we dynamics the continue. will associated calendar typically Ceilings expect with the

Second market, expected. quarter down stabilizing we was volumes of in improved of had X.X%, commodity sales pricing reflecting X.X% that Steel Framing negative by than which, X.X%, the were indicative mix better offset quarter, a

quarter. supplier prices And and market As new improvement did were in we see a J.T. this quarter. steel mix. Framing sequential decline mentioned some decline down price as volume in and the slight earlier, sales XX% in with Steel start year-over-year, the in X% X% third to Organically, announcements move we down there increase are were through an while

million soft multifamily the and products as basis the Products year-over-year Complementary decreased to $XXX.X quarter with conditions, growth such the category. and metal primarily for representing quarter consecutive on for X.X% due X% lower an some combined of XXth this lumber pricing for sales year-over-year, of our Sales grew of organic commercial trim.

quarter. for and Products, insulation, collectively Our stucco grew these team for EIFS driving particularly in Complementary & and growth where Fasteners, Tools on the XX.X% focused remains subcategories

basis quarter's single-family quarter a Wallboard price X, multifamily mix the activity. during disruption cost an than the on of higher a Slide higher-margin tighter percentage just to of manufacturer demand increases points incentives price variance year profitability. shift by commercial a estimated and were manufacturer captured repurchasing was ago. from yet Gross storm from on of also to which was XX.X%, turning slightly million $XXX.X given basis margin the XXXX. not year focuses and quarter of Now a XX together Gross with factor points. result XX the profit Roughly business the down Unrealized dynamics fiscal was second X/X during

inventory basis capitalized liquidation another and damage lowered several and XX including margin of loss approximately Finally, by gross rate, impacts, onetime operational points.

year's administrative million, cost with Of higher the expenses to recent related million. and million approximately primarily related containment related year-over-year general for from claims. quarter [indiscernible] associated to $XXX.X were and $X prior Selling, up million million $XXX.X the insurance actions $XX additional costs the the increase, $XX.X previously to disclosed severance acquisitions,

storm-related market efficiency in headwind the offset reduction overall operating the conditions end in announced quarter, of market under these activity savings shift were the realized softer the lower increases mix inefficiencies the in reflective Despite seen by spending operating reduced cost -- costs, of from actions and demand. partially and

related points severance XX were the to an of expenses previously prior deleverage. inflation to year's points of General compared announced operating basis XX.X%, costs containment basis points. cost the restructuring XX in SG&A cost were basis sales primarily resulted approximately XX attributable efforts. of increase XX% to net

expenses, XX the principally improvement point acquisitions, deleverage. a and accident associated average price Wallboard of And price costs factors recent restructuring implemented expense, actions higher by improvement a for from and were a our approximately deflation These offset inflation. operating another drove point basis with rent lower basis partially to basis XX Operational activity points basis XX points of basis steel point related claim XX improvement deleverage. contributed on XX

decreased expense inclusive $X.XX $XX.X expense, income of XX.X% XX diluted net XX.X% points a increased income million of per as in from XX.X% Adjusted to a share of net or SG&A or percentage interest All to sales share. in net increase diluted $X.XX XX.X%. and million $XX of compared basis per

year the quarter's the decreased margin $XXX.X prior Adjusted in was Adjusted year EBITDA EBITDA of to quarter. prior million compared from X.X% million year-over-year down at second also $XXX.X XX.X%. XX.X%

on of million sheet XX, to On hand credit had balance cash available $XX.X the we revolving and facilities. million continuing X. liquidity our Now October on $XXX.X of Slide under

our and Yvon the this acquisition year in up quarter, calendar leases, an of Following debt ago. was X.Xx year and coupled leverage of net repurchase end the increase earlier Kamco, share with R.S. from as the equipment Elliott a activity X.Xx of [indiscernible]

EBITDA the $XXX.X the was year million operating by was to $XXX.X year prior million the for Free $XXX.X for XX% provided compared of adjusted adjusted $XXX.X cash Cash quarter. to our activities quarter quarter, or of million, in ago. which compared flow almost a million of XX% EBITDA

expect full For approximately free EBITDA. year of XX% to fiscal we of cash flow to total now the XXXX, adjusted XX%

a Capital expenditures to approximately XXXX. for ago. the expect point, year fiscal the will quarter were million be expenditures $XX.X million million full compared At to $XX capital for $XX year million we this $XX

XXX,XXX earlier repurchase share. an repurchase shares During Directors stock Indicative in price $XXX second to of company at continued $XX.X quarter, of Board our million fiscal our repurchased week, per average business, up authorizing shares outstanding. the million the of for of its this $XX.XX share to our confidence we renewed of program,

we M&A of our and core a be continued opportunities to with attractive capital balance repayment. component our allocation investment repurchases in continue business, buybacks those Share debt strategy as

Our capital strategic we sheet foundation what continue solid believe is effective of for and provide the an structure to our pillars. execution balance

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residential While conditions both our and scale is present to near-term service to commercial and headwinds, market flexibility continue given well GMS customers. positioned, expertise, successfully

unpredictable and XXXX. into we Given remain believe will calendar dynamics, conditions all choppy market the that evolving year

third prior to single-family volumes be digits. me fiscal growth. quarter, U.S. be down we Using multifamily Wallboard this, and starting for single roughly the quarter as with the proxy, discuss XXXX, to Wallboard Considering to our XX% flat third compared volumes year, volumes high business roughly the down our Wallboard let to expectations be commercial as expect versus fiscal organic of

Wallboard result, to low digits. single And mid- total down a are to including down As expected volumes, expected acquisitions, Wallboard are organic high be volumes to be digits. total mid-single to

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mix down For conditions expected Steel soft and third low with for price activity to to down are our Framing, with low in to and digits commercial be continue, mid-single multifamily expected digits. volumes fiscal quarter single

Although our pricing as typical third we to during increases, prices slightly Framing fiscal is Steel despite announced and fiscal the quarter. second stabilize started our contract to expect recently quarter in sequentially seasonally during

sales net grow around for principally double in expected acquired the of likely Products our digits Finally, are to result volume. year-over-year, low Complementary the very XX%,

on and to shown digits Slide fiscal sales XX.X% a to as improve at X, digits. our third quarter as low continue ago, net Gross to be our quarter in we to organic margin up XX.X% All for expect single year to second mid-single over our slightly sales third expected approximately down with is quarter. compared fiscal with fiscal low

Adjusted to of million, $XXX million seasonally what range is EBITDA is be EBITDA in our to softest the approximately $XXX X% for quarter quarter. margin the for with expected of

the continue term, path As for down through we remain this cycle the to ahead. manage optimistic we near about

backed created expect with a of United in would drivers demand other reduction further by to among States And investment emerge. with demand rates, drivers. demand population We with several U.S. see commercial horizon, the and including growing for construction along trends further undersupply on positive rising solid construction homes housing a we additional market the by infrastructure of for programs, in government incentive

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with with the a with permits. the prior in homes a And directional relief. sidelines driving relief additional in residential similar the year a came XX% expected, monthly increase would mortgage expect We X.X% of off October, compared in the boost total value sold U.S. as in and homebuyers increase

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that around are of you talk think through is back on price you competitive of as couple you that mentioned if question guys cost quarters, and of have a Can you market. far Wallboard, did that about you -- over first specifically I guess mention pushing there could? next and the getting where headway, going kind that that I Wallboard where see as kind J.T., you you it price cost. is made but that price-sensitive some

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on and is something gave some just want view the into commercial, You clarify, us views multifamily that pretty for next negative coming to quarter? of up. is sort going next your Or I that year?

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structures. need we people So to build

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is Ramsey question Research Steven with from next Thompson Our Group.

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with Our next Mike RBC question from is Capital Dahl Markets.

suggests to downside single want specifically XQ? would Ceiling you're price the the and last it, If at M&A Can driving versus volumes your for mid-single-digit contribution, expectation side. couple are that is the deals of the what's of go in that mix that the driving double-digit Kamco I and into organic you more call organic volumes and other growth, talk quarters. take be pretty your a I digits, big like look acceleration to that back about guidance of which high declining kind to expecting acquisition some account Ceilings

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Our next question is from Barclays. Matthew with Bouley

looking to got multifamily you Wallboard that I call that kind of Wallboard? did there's going out presumably curious mix, headwind a you're or, price and about out on at as beyond if impact? Just QX thinking forward like-for-like and commercial, mix parse as way And just and how versus from I mix in you guess, quantify this the headwind guess you're I'm

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will that assuming continue way effectively going you're And Okay. forward? that

through quarter are. I the at third least, Yes. mean we

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the a perspective? Any reasonably So Or from perspective? going next valuation my guys, M&A end question year? we for you where willing the a you funnel from digestion are like the from backdrop, M&A operate of is here be looking does guys is should leverage kind active market to thoughts on choppier period kind kind it given of of perhaps seem a into forward? Just

Yes. I really still mean is good. the pipeline

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Markets. question final Our with Stevenson Capital is Loop Jeffrey from

through November slower air And multiple industry move see the on last year? there's so, the the and single-family in air in are as into guys expecting the single-family the demand pocket deceleration you a side? and earlier you quarters Did this starts as if demand we from single-family quarter pocket an

quarters I go forward. ago. this seeing X or it's as than deceleration thinking go we're is as have But through we flat we would quarter, a dramatic which mean, we're X not certainly Well, lower we thought

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look So is into and things the obviously, at relatively flat about fourth right how third thinking you're as quarter quarter, we now?

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will conference. questions further the no today's With this conclude in queue,

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