Natera (NTRA) 8 Nov 232023 Q3 Earnings call transcript

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Natera, Inc. Q3 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I will now hand today's call over to Michael Brophy, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

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