ZipRecruiter (ZIP) 9 May 242024 Q1 Earnings call transcript

Thank you for standing by. My name is Pam, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the ZipRecruiter, Inc. Q1 2024 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]Thank you. to Relations. conference like Haroldson to now Investor with would turn over the Drew I begin. Please

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[Operator the Instructions] with your comes of from line Trevor first Barclays. And question Young

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for this Trevor, Tim. the question. Yes, is Thanks

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Trevor, this is Dave.

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is this Dave. Ralph, Sure.

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today's concludes call. that for gentlemen, Thank and all Ladies you joining.

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