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Cam Carey | executive |
Jeffrey Maggioncalda | executive |
Kenneth Hahn | executive |
Josh Baer | analyst |
Stephen Sheldon | analyst |
Jeffrey Silber | analyst |
Rishi Jaluria | analyst |
Terrell Tillman | analyst |
Ryan MacDonald | analyst |
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to Coursera's Fourth Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]And please be advised that this call is being recorded.After the speakers' prepared remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]I would like to turn the call over to Cam Carey, Head of Investor Relations. Mr. Carey, you may begin.
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