Ecovyst (ECVT) 31 Oct 242024 Q3 Earnings call transcript

Good morning. My name is Jim, and I will be your conference operator today. Welcome to the Ecovyst Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call and Webcast. Please note, today's conference is being recorded and should run approximately one hour. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Gene Shields, Director of Investor Relations. sir. ahead, go Please

Mike Good Call. welcome call With Bitting, Officer; are Jim. Financial Quarter this Ecovyst XXXX Kurt and Executive Chief Earnings me Ecovyst's Ecovyst's morning, you, Chief to Officer. and Third morning Feehan, Thank on the

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third Thank you, results financial quarter were Ecovyst's a Gene, overall in environment, expectations. and good with macroeconomic morning. of Against the challenging line our backdrop

with exhibit continued solid segment Ecoservices fundamentals resilience to demand performance. another contributing Our of positive to quarter

pricing the positively the the continued where our alkylate services to contributed economics high support to and contractual in utilization in regeneration quarter. attractive profitability During demand business, segment quarter, refinery increases

acid year. end in certain uses, virgin volume quarter the prior Although to for compared third demand remained increased sales industrial soft sulfuric

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in the highlight next Moving major I'll slide. change of the to adjusted components the EBITDA.

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hear from first Cunningham Patrick Citi. instructions We'll [Operator ] at

terms on you your end in curious additions from costs and incurred add-backs capacity reliability benefits thoughts for potentially your Just the lot program, early both it's XXXX, things control, a you mentioned an market items in standpoint. from in some maintenance then whether of XXXX. of from And

your terms So of as the market as control. in maybe setup in items both well just

Thanks, Yes. Patrick.

of overall really guiding as utilization our terms to But I for at landscape, look not regeneration we're rate. at operate in high a think here XXXX. the we services continues

we there we Virgin reprice operating we roll industrial as continue we we Catalysts, there it's Advanced well XXXX. acid, be here volumes in some in risen months, going polyethylene continue segment. deliver has weakness we that will solutions for largest the continues the as off and expect globally, contracts that high-value products some of Materials expect in and pockets have the and continued would customers case sulfuric really customized pricing then them, power to certain expect prices forward. really, the last into our think to as And that sulfuric producers, for to hope on on virgin of And strong X really acid really and offer that segments, balance, we reported while remain we expected. So been to and

we're Just sort else Got imply very part healthy Is cost wondering step-up, big Ecoservices order XQ It in biggest period was Ecoservices seasonality but the guide timing I component, there? catalyst a side. of the why offsetting in price on helpful. being it. then And you flow-through of of somewhat out a terms seasonally in of flat does think some anything there called a that. of weaker potentially the being

the traditionally, lighter being what the Patrick, the quarter than we little see third. Ecoservices, and quarter Yes, and usually the for a fourth second is first

an talked we've for last do XX, that prior So along a of the and guidance to catalyst the catalysts polyethylene past. will line fourth compared And year-over-year, expect of the to implied on to that by niche with quarter fourth for custom expectations. increase actually other right? custom think hydrocracking component sales I to the year, having, the call in So expect the be about in was going be is AM&C I we think range up the XX% year-over-year of it, increase but quarter. business, as see a relatively polyethylene that's largely balance with our Ecoservices in the big year, be quarter some offset the in fourth we And

Bank. Your is David Begleiter at open Deutsche line

Kurt on your leverage, and to by at of leverage 'XX? the the you be target expect do end Mike,

the able David, would are expect good flow leverage. have our compared in cash past, to into the then be increase to the to a we specific not But year, cash talked Xx next an we of generation say has year. free year. delever said, the year. we guidance expecting, I year midpoint $XX we've X.X that giving guidance We're million, about about So being Yes, which turn do around And end as a to prior a right? this would

within path cash continue and year. of good free X.Xx each a that Xx be we to would So amount generate target flow of the range certainly down our range if

the in Beryl impact was quarter? just good. And Hurricane Very in what QX, the from

million impact was The Yes. dollars. a few

the impact other hurricanes weather and XXXX. not particularly in did as that early in the as but of results, materially quite we've events seen So past, it the some

bridge about thinking 'XX beyond Beryl, other bridge to next help one-off growth the lastly, any that you could impacts to call out just And would year?

and The end the about a other Kurt markets bit and little Yes. the thing, talked one of growth. drivers

The about higher Ecoservices, this thing in particularly having program we talked cost reliability and around the some step-up a turnaround the in other year of higher the costs.

future that would and same same But higher So reliability for that continue cost year. a at maintain do in to the increase been step-up, have going we wouldn't you next a And inflation it and for business help into so capacity, business. cost as appropriate bit and time, that the years turnaround of see maintenance that reliability we of growth keeping help will at program that talked business our does add of level relatively a many growth support for about, that as out.

that Is million this also next a versus impact few in year dollar of year? terms

Yes.

the million guidance I gave So same change change, going that a wouldn't $XX 'XX, year. $X 'XX you original think into into next million going we for see to talked about when we roughly right?

Our next Yefremov question Capital comes from KeyBanc Markets. Aleksey at

program reliability to the wanted just something. the subject I stay clarify and on of

think the hard you're it's benefits. program far I happy demand if you EBITDA, potential to capacity just thus that explain. is in see with and this reliability at you when right Are you sort Maybe benefits look performing mentioned of improves? these now. more can how I the Because see it

Thanks for Aleksey. question, the

sales. it that reliability year. an have we're be to the us this virgin enhancement year-over-year sulfuric last up believe of XXXX and year-over-year efforts from it's has think I year we our acid on mean, I going -- enabled really

we additional mean models. are have be benefited work team. automation So to We've a we're to using there's reliability also -- But improved it's done. using our reliability We've maintenance still it's initiative multiyear conduct there. I where schedules. us

we of will produce advantage capacity, multiyear sulfuric of and us high believe across those incremental take leverage allows So operating the those to a acid combination which additional equate EBITDA. period will, efforts to

capacity that goes comes you'll time see program that the on, meet believe incremental that long-term. you'll will we we So demand from as reliability the sulfuric up with virgin higher see that see acid

expect Yes. up. pricing you questions, guess assuming on prior to be Ecoservices And I two what you next the again, year, I'm in would based said

would that's price pass-through. confirm If increase than excluding if if higher be also could cost, in increase case? you the And the that the

price for mean I say next that's the talked Yes. of is question. that real year. before, I contracts. not with of run within mechanism good the Ecoservices to as the think out. a providing some those long-term Alex, the But reset I nature we're specific And when quite ability contracts base would pricing The guidance strong we've

of So growth well growth volumetric our that. is continue both story business we'll to that in as see And pricing. as part

growth side. and we pricing over volume to So coming of both the long-term year see next do years part our the expect strategy as continue on to and

John McNulty Markets. Capital with BMO

at this So do not catalyst some step from for not can like perspective is sound of year, obviously, a you least fuels, may a the sustainable things next taken in on recover Because does there this of Are may based have you're back. belt the that next something in tightening things that at considering it point? couple recover years your commentary. on the

us part to some maybe So I particular profitability guess, think of can the help pull to around about that you can you with of help the the levers platform?

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taken So QX, through. QX a starting pretty and to approach that is which to strong already in roll we've

guess And and enough. just cash Fair a it. I question leverage. Got on then

point it getting XQ. looks that balance sheet improving. more you're should pretty the targets million, not over go up at it this leverage on your your is So in at even the cash at to to, like want actually I but and is $XXX know chunky you balance get

also guess, we're lot that opportunities is see see really back. So I M&A come the I a something it Or a starting assets see does seem market the you to materialize, your were not And you mind? considering like for use can while, at speak just cash? you're but of think of if to off you in that areas, this starting them leverage? given in pipeline more a some getting Do point the to full

question, a That's Sure. good John.

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in growth and to want good that to to business fund.  And we our are that future point, opportunities we inorganic in remain we also, complement resilience adding interested we've organic your say bolt-on really growth potential. nature more really opportunities got growth would existing strengthening and do the continue So would I

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Alexander Jefferies. question from, Laurence come next will at Our

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