BrightView (BV) 14 Nov 242024 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Good day, and welcome to the BrightView Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, today's call will be recorded. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Chris Stoczko, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning, and thank you for joining BrightView's Fourth Quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2024 Earnings Call. the and are Officer; now Investor on to X President Chief Brett refer Relations BrightView's also Slide Officer, can our Financial the of disclaimer. website Asplund, and Chief on safe and Executive Urban, you be contains Dale found which harbor our presentation, call. I will

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Brett. Thanks,

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and steps So maybe, are key metrics, should in are both, employees XXXX taken XXXX? beyond? retention of what that that there the be of little help carryover or of both benefit incremental you'll you that and you've these Or steps in taking maybe a customers already

Bob. Great question, Yes.

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Mulrooney William Blair. Our come next Tim from with will question

I've Brett, of quick couple here. a Dale, got questions

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Great. Good question, Yes. Tim.

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year. to growth We land this are committed

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from come will Palm question next with Greg Craig-Hallum. Our

sort I of in year. EBITDA also congrats on time the on guess, officially, successful really first breakout congrats far here, so but just the a

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on type months? kind give top bit in little maybe of of acquisitions what of the of sense list flavor of that. into outlook, Makes I'm that of growth priorities? just curious has And appreciate us just you're M&A fold few the of last terms at? around all I I does color. changed the in sense. kind at looking Yes. time the kind if of a how And your line What's

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type HOAs. do existing maintenance things a like where So we I make businesses, smaller love can think, I our Greg, we're where we could going help short on? to like specialty markets fertilization, can of even some like grow maintenance we care, large it some business do pond buy term, in feel for I business. irrigation, and to businesses. love focus I do tree sure aquatics Those through

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George. Great Yes. question,

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for Asplund closing remarks.

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