Sensient Technologies (SXT) 9 Feb 242023 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Good morning, and welcome to the Sensient Technologies Corporation 2023 Fourth Quarter and Year-End Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the floor over to Steve Rolfs. Please go ahead, sir.

morning. Good earnings fourth Sensient's year and for XXXX. of call to quarter the full Welcome Senior and Vice of Rolfs, Steve I'm President Corporation. Sensient Chief Technologies Officer Financial I'm President Sensient's Paul joined Executive Chief Officer. Chairman, today by and Manning, have we full-year released quarter fourth Yesterday, and XXXX results. our release financial the investor our income the movements, XXXX of measures, website which of on we will cost presentation call currency company's plans, sensient.com.During remove yogurt related our the copy payment today, available portfolio fruit of reference our received and connection A in business. is at divestiture earnout certain optimization the our non-GAAP of to preparations impact in with noted And as in other company's filings. items the improves provides with these We believe to of the results additional investors removal between reporting comparability the of performance periods. evaluate items and information the company's management GAAP. how in be not and for financial in reviews results company's information as substitute evaluates considered financial performance.Non-GAAP operations a reflects calculated also with This and should isolation or from, the accordance financial most A our of is directly press release. to in measures financial non-GAAP available reconciliation GAAP comparable measures the include responses We your review made reconciliations with these during in that, also we call, remind today.I comments would this including the to make like may comments encourage questions, to connection forward-looking investors statements. everyone to

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We will the now questions. open for call

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[Operator Instructions].

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