Corelogic (CLGX) 27 Feb 192018 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Good day and welcome to the CoreLogic Fourth Quarter 2018 Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Dan Smith, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you and good morning. Presentation for Call, full the Investor our we year our results financial fourth to and where Conference present XXXX. Welcome quarter and

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important includes guidance the following Our assumptions.

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of expect XXXX first lower of to to quarter XX% U.S. be levels. terms XXXX, the market In we volumes mortgage relative

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