The Boston Beer Company, Inc. (SAM) 27 Feb 242023 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Greetings, and welcome to the Boston Beer Company Fourth Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] And as a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce to you Mike Andrews, Associate General Counsel and Corporate Secretary. Thank you, Mike.

You may begin.

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