TopBuild (BLD) 23 Feb 232022 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Greetings. Welcome to the TopBuild’s Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2022 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded.

I’ll now turn the conference over to your host, Tabitha Zane.

You may begin.

morning. good and you, Thank

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reporting our financial realized quarter year several of addition other team and to in profitability, XXXX. and significant growth record a accomplishments In

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insulation including see for distribution. we our avenues growth, product market, multiple to and commercial end heavy installation light Moving and building

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lead generation With of in our application, Day, these we hard our resulting prospects help Investor our are the highlighted hitting markets we growth. May at all with projects which and proprietary solid

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in XX% share end we approximately of building the we’re commercial biggest $X.X billion the this estimate While player space, market. insulation we have

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and installation acquiring Our contractors focused residential remains #X after internal on innovation in high-quality and technology, priority companies. investments specialty commercial and equipment distribution

drive Our far, experienced realize for by proven which meaningful our the to transactions, greatest returns team shareholders. has from and these ability synergies

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company includes January. SRI and acquired residential in Holdings, its with customer brings million strong a This with the and base employees in installation markets high-quality Midwest focus Southeast company its well-managed fits it culture. on safety $XX well in and TopBuild’s a This we

scale, strong. prospects insulation focused are generate We strong on pipeline core of our and returns our our companies our our base ahead, targeting Looking enhance expand for remain and that shareholders. will is of customer

avenues I’ve you active for to front. growth, on have multiple and remain can the mentioned, expect us acquisition we As

continue returning addition, cash In to repurchases. evaluate to we’ll shareholders through share

confidence structure. results and share management’s directors’ and our Our potential flow position in our now long-term our of to the cash our discuss program firm our optimizing the outlook. commitment repurchase financial Rob will XXXX strong TopBuild, reflects and efficiency capital

morning, good everyone. and Robert, Thanks,

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model. points record to of track Our the our operating success

we X doubled Over adjusted than years, the our have by than points. more expanded XXX margins adjusted EBITDA our past basis EBITDA and tripled our more revenue,

results, Moving year to our balance full fourth guidance you start an quarter provide of XXXX. update the overview and the I’ll our on financials. sheet with for

as that Distribution’s driven Specialty volume increased for volumes on installation growth project-related quarter net an were quarter M&A. $XXX.X basis. mechanical XX.X% in were by increase an $X.X and than primarily quarter prices. XX.X%, down, volume by sales and Fourth net selling net were lower XX.X% Distribution’s million, fourth XX.X% segment’s our higher of prior sales a million, of fourth to sales $XXX.X driven same branch Specialty the year. and Breaking declined insulation increase strong billion, price

little to the on noted a of on calls, the can side I’ve volumes business. due previous project choppy mechanical As be nature insulation the

increased year, by same and the increased Installation’s primarily billion. a revenue year revenue by $X Specialty basis. contributions full For Distribution’s driven from prices primarily XX.X% XX.X%, increased and grew to full XX.X% M&A improved XX%, pricing. volume. driven and sales branch on total

quarter for and both for fourth which quarter Our full XXX point and the margin a basis adjusted in expansion equates fourth year. XX.X%, basis points gross was the to year the full XXX the

leverage to XXX efficiencies, EBITDA EBITDA managing basis margin operational Fourth quarter adjusted and XXXX. inflation. point to by improvement compared $XXX.X and XX.X% million, adjusted success XX.X%, cost driven was This our continued in a our was fixed increased

of EBITDA point XXXX. branch $XXX.X adjusted the a EBITDA full basis, points to million, same XXX for improvement. a XX.X% margin adjusted year increased was On our improved year margins basis basis our XXX Full and XX.X%, by EBITDA

were XXX and incremental margins our segment Our and and improvement XXX year of EBITDA for was quarter our for fourth EBITDA quarter adjusted points, an Distribution XX.X%. Fourth respectively. Specialty points margin segment, XX.X% full basis installation XX.X% both same-branch basis

expanded the EBITDA XXX year, points For XX.X%. for margin basis full by installation adjusted to

result a full quarter fourth for variable and million the additional Interest expanded from from from million of $XX.X full in points higher in million interest year, fourth primarily Specialty the adjusted basis as $XX.X DI quarter $XX.X year increased the XX EBITDA and $XX.X to of of million expense XX.X%. margin Distribution’s to borrowings acquisition our to XXXX rates.

with debt Fourth and fixed per fourth acquisition current adjusted to were the and integration-related until Our primarily prior $X.X XX% XX% year. diluted for million costs. approximately the year, In share variable were to no XXXX. maturities increase from net full upcoming XX% million $X.XX, income quarter, is related adjustments earnings $X.X quarter a

increase. Full XX.X% a year earnings adjusted per diluted were $XX.XX, share

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QX sales income, XXXX in by operating price increase in volumes prior by inflation, capital XX.X% quarter million compared driven in working normal growth to the higher fourth cash The Our was capital. working $XXX.X was driven partially This and continued by net year. flow million our in was seasonality. $XXX increase offset

is range million, an with of revenue in a opportunities and are XX% sales. consistent we our improvement, targeting This for CapEx X.X% XX% we long-term XXXX $XX.X of to approximately of guidance. where and area long-term was see

allocation. capital Regarding

acquisitions approximately on we million year, share on repurchases. spent full $XXX the and For $XX million approximately

balance investments, we term, repurchases. long the a and healthy to Over sheet, opportunistic prioritize synergistic acquisitions will continue share internal

in we of all acquisition healthy opportunities serve as a as markets targets. terms acquisitions, we well In growth for pipeline end of have X

was down of third in EBITDA. outstanding fourth of billion. including from end This $XXX.X There were is an the million quarter leverage remained our $X.X forma and net pro down revolver million. debt million, of accessible XX-month October quarter $XXX.X X.Xx the and We trailing Total at from changes and just we and short-term $XXX.X XXXX, our acquired of liquidity of X.XXx with XXXX. to X.XXx of no long-term after structure XX, cash at under significant on adjusted the DI leverage debt ended balances our December debt

current mid- this At of slower sales in sales the our single-family activity single-family upper given backlog backlog residential should sales to year. second Moving half single housing expect time, we in full guidance. to continue XXXX our as The to starts, should stronger annual expecting of are under and to the the decline quarter the for this back residential residential we digits backlog multifamily recent construction into support units XXXX, of on year. units trend of to is support the our and the be while

solid, public we flexible our hear number However, confident team, technology the industry outperform builders. housing Moreover, any the were will expressed recent that TopBuild some by of and believe the tools to long-term to we of will the are very leadership fundamentals a and pleased in optimism environment. are we cost continue ensure structure of

commercial end total XX% now is industrial revenues and which Our optimistic. expectation of markets for more our our is

activity strong and and backlog We projects a bidding have active. new very is

XXXX that Putting expecting to are $X.X billion $XXX to total million we for remarks. sales these the $XXX of million. to result, expand end call between and range and projecting be in adjusted be to in over billion $X.X all a digits. low As markets now sales are to by I’ll turn mid-single Robert to together, the EBITDA we closing

environment. well Thanks, we This of this we on executing operate solid it, environment and closing, we can’t we shareholders. our prepared and are how Rob. control more plan, develops. look of the cannot our manage results macro if outperform rest for What and the producing as the track recognize strong evidenced our within year, to by In we to challenging control is value creating record is we

growth. our multiple also We’re excited for about avenues

markets end which represent serve, together share mentioned addressable combined billion I market. XX% X have a the over $XX we As total of we earlier,

successfully We in are our fortify ability execute to to our further advantages. and strategic source confident acquisitions competitive

unyielding operating now day. questions. continued great are TopBuild we service on As and for for thank every focus I always, while our safely team entire results hard their customer strong delivering bottom energy, and work, ready Operator, line

question Stephen first comes Evercore from with Our Kim of line Instructions] [Operator the ISI.

all the Yes. and exciting quarter Appreciate Good color. times.

can into in, us I your provided guess year-over-year? are a sort could, for you line, of when So negative for thing bit little the give if think you I going I fiscal you’ve on sales wanted sense to that turn ‘XX. delve exactly first to the top outlook a

implied -- going be in well secondly, basically XX% this would to third second as by your I target is And to your to that’s seems XX%. about XX% mean, be your it that, it the of decremental within guide high then quarter? the above I or quarter? say that’s Is incremental EBITDA as and

So or kind was high? why is just I does wondering so that assume? cost price What of outlook headcount this for

Rob. Yes. Okay. is Steven, this

looking it On the the we’re top line, way right now. at

residential So out backlog from a there. we’re side at that’s the single-family looking of things,

what listen saying our seen months if to From could last in now. the the kind with potential on, there best to obviously, builders line quarter. And to that of perspective second upside starts going to single-family a there we’ve be so. that’s you is what But into us we’re from modeling X last some up estimate the here or are

could some So selling to potential and spring season there the upside that. here, be starts strong is if

of side things, stronger. is multifamily the the even On backlog

out side that And of of And side expecting projects and year. strength throughout expecting sales, throughout then this now, the important pretty bidding And markets and you that We’re growth business we’ve remember, QX. right the real we’re carry to full the at sales QX in got strong it’s as XX% resi that side in some of on that’s the on show to our end us On commercial industrial. the in you but fact, we’re with to the our year’s, diversified the opportunity of business. XX% large got side, year. look the

business. side perspective. of EBITDA the So From an pretty feeling good that we’re about

of guidance, end higher XX%, at XX%. in -- right On ultimately, downturn is we’ve through the around But the down the mean to close labor end got decremental the to we’re pocket lower of our on air we’re mortgage high point how at residential QX targeted I the we’re since back we’re around to snap long-term your holding or QX, seen onto look positive housing. potentially demand on looking the because it it, if fundamentals you X%. thinking rates an be it’s because for going very just midpoint,

prepared of We in is, does QX QX want whether given back, tight labor that’d when be QX, be that how next to come or demand year.

this is Yes. Robert. Stephen,

seen, So done the right, really business. you’ve we’ve I think of great a working of our job productivity

so business And and a we with our field the have command great our operators. control of in

the watching crews. always our we’re so And productivity of

We’ve slow of whatever. we shown or the make is to past adjustments, have type or any and in we if will. down always that back come there If strong

as But we’re Rob is with this said, to So going that. lived. think comfortable -- we’re short pretty we

watch done of building and keep that a closely so up. great we’ve labor And that our product we’ll labor job

helpful. guess That’s my question Great. I distribution second relates side. to the Okay.

lumpiness, and before, projects talked the on that certainly addressed which like -- some You sounds it good this you about now. large got you you’re bidding projects,

general, regard it previous a into quarter? it more Or guess, of would business into I a got rather sort or pushed as result the that XQ saw" some XXXX? in in sort Was though, been of third of lumpiness you "that strength? of some we is like the you think pulled result XQ out opportunities having

and ready in behavior difference you And any the up maybe ramp this any you that -- you you’re was just then the commentary from true. builders about public me, talking you builders well. have their later private starts in get and positive And about, to year? your been as talked builders? We’ve potentially seen seen have smaller curious, this in that’s difference And between that large also, certainly conversations been reminding commentary have have hearing they I as

Yes, is this Stephen, Robert.

out. that our at in back as here we the we talk look that about yes, and are backlog, it’s have industrial that bidding in we So growth we XXXX point, projects that’s have look will been on in And why as commercial projects to looking well think in we’re XXXX half and online. at we of pushed opportunities that and at confident I the as coming the XXXX Rob’s be side,

seeing but So December, yes, we’re start selling relative a hearing commentary the to have builders’ The so as come pretty have. with season. of several and commentary, spring January, the builders on positive out that public also you

hearing it well. And builders as our then local we’re regional from

out labor What you if material sure service think are [indiscernible] think, seeing the of we provide, change, the certain that provide, we material value I material it. the appreciating piece that laid I we the of side, said builders they’re any the really really it’s that have stuff. and that is especially for making the

So value. That’s we’re with traction that January, comments, prepared they seeing in was the really do that in you price increase that. announced why and appreciate heard December

think want they’re to I them with So that. that’s up -- and prepared, sure we’re lined make for builders

Our line next Bank. of question comes from Deutsche Ahlersmeyer Joe with the

Yes. much. morning, Thanks Good very everybody.

ahead completions notable. since entire for this a volumes had particularly a install the started really pricing to cycle. we throughout little stack like had and first you your And the it erode So basis, the mix price grew of [indiscernible] bit time was looks gap on year even

time over So trended, differently I mean, from certainly the the bit reported who who peer a composition strong also revenue at a mindset. but that reiterated little that finish yesterday, value year, volume think, I your to

around you rationality of differing that year? is signs go we to maybe early there into just maybe as And the the speak composition this price your in fourth quarter strategies So growth? if could next

improved. volumes. would things fourth and about our good No, seen in down, is What us, feel of builders front what that we slowing trades have the we’ve heard Yes. from start we’ve quarter really

happy we’re we’ve work. the of lot So Obviously, equation. price the to more we think side gotten a also with

the that manage reflected the we well, for very quarter our in and did with expansion you there. We margins see that can

Yes.

you moving backwards were you if a at our can earlier see along as lot performance, here. Joe, that think, price I price we delivered look things

So very earlier if we at a price, go lot XXXX. were you price see backwards in you’ll on that strong

and just expansion margin to along has then the with it and volume that -- come point. So the

side more So on what’s as but nothing about side, the margin and price we the executed. -- there’s our share, than positive getting just fair talked and happened so we and

the field to in price. great job of executing on earlier a continues team did price and The deliver that

probably Yes. side. Yes, mix you’re outlook, and slightly of sense. have on looking differently that lot the as looking margins the down the the end, a industrial at in margins you even SG&A at will deleverage EBITDA makes mixing flattish high then some on And at also

So gross flat your even next that into up. it margin seems is to accurate? like Is year slightly

we out I on Obviously, don’t commercial adjust got on, commentary, good then coming, potentially said, we worse got the the upside bidding side, air like said, we’re about the Yes. with excited pocket said, we we’ll we But think prepared residential the on I that. gross be side, that but like obviously thinking. term, guidance guide but than we backlog feel going see Like and it’s long the And if with out, on industrial on and we of recent margins going to I about there. we activity to the feel good there’s we’re business. side the and that

XXXX be markets diversified year really helping results. our TopBuild’s really I you support where think a could end see

next from the of in with Our Jefferies. comes Phil Ng line question

your we Congrats with you more driving what’s strong, I’m how through see spring certainly but that optimism freight’s separately, customers, quarter. back that something on selling from looking is up, if [ Is season you up quickly of are then business? out kind you that ripple loosening here with trades should ahead of that mentioned could back kind ]? be And your optimism? just ticking demand that up. pushing of another hear rates builder that curious to Encouraging of kind strong

Robert. It’s

like December frame. in Yes, they as think unusually good about the time taking second think So question the we maybe saw first. I traffic

saw start strong I selling think in the January to season. spring traffic historically some

as definitely the bit, off some folks sideline stabilize the on although, have been down, come that. there’s some think even I there even said, for have -- with rates tweak changes little builders sidelines the recent what a something there,

And I we’ve here. question think as years what’s underbuilt that’s think for I been there’s driving well. their optimism many no And

things first I there’s are new rates and of going receptiveness where some think sorry? up there. What your maybe end question, to was the

trades to react season spring loosening of kind through P&L? your could And quickly the selling up? how ability The with that to ripple strong a

Yes.

So up. you’re us of front right, trades loosened have in definitely

as the we and the backlog that QX we completed. talked backlog that see as Rob about, work You into in dug and that here

feel think good. I So

-- we getting sites at we’re As on look homebuilders. job we’re production as especially doubt sites, job on that no with the quicker, getting

So keep really I be that. definitely From have as ready heard talk lot perspective, to potentially And month our let’s about as our say, That’s second continues labor and how in our how great talking preparing that think the us strong about insight March, you time. busy some season of and months we selling before, be of to fall, and for and we why a productivity for control could quarter a that. business. to we’re spring see we labor, -- here our the we’ll through you which, start of summer into that ripen we know, work seasonally the end is as

So branch and by on we’re monitoring going in what’s on going what’s bidding stuff. in performance, branch

ready the we’re need local level pull kind time. that of So at to to we a any always lever

how concessions. XX cost kind see a called manufacturers you the backdrop on potentially I XXXX as managing your react Can of some and guess, tight yourself you benign. for well. and power conference demand softening risk perspective last asking mean be margins is Super. call, give insulation guide us pretty basis ability on for because of watch price margins seeing the compression out EBITDA a kind are the points side of cost for and to your XXXX your of a pricing maybe if out it’s your builder Robert, at you would lot customers I to

You got it.

So about the that’s the and it’s really driving of it. the offer, quality Phil. consistency I and really value what’s what mean we

few may data a different points give that So you there.

is definitely so optimism have there has they’re make of provide. that’s if going what our plays be the that the as -- labor, builders to partnering we them, somebody especially there uptick material, to for have going a been to obviously to there’s strength -- So sure in there has spike, want with going to that some

remain think And about there’s and the if there’s to that, even if no you bit air is going And of material. little then then is tight, pocket. from question second a labor about an -- thing

the to you of as you is business, that strong, continue multifamily used loose-fill reason think if was material of be as construction, those I is material mix some look at going in that So loose-fill mid tight. to Part at the of types multifamily even applications. floors, of look the being and heavily about

So be to -- that, strong continues multifamily. that is the business fact in

anything going material not It’s do to the to alleviate tightness.

and So if have our about appreciated areas in And is since you different I think about those here. say that’s noticed. and October, traction you to back transpired go service talking definitely quality our dynamics that think our the value, why see us

from comes JPMorgan. Mike Rehaut with line the question Our of next

in to wanted get just a price XXXX. of I First, sense carryover

first In the industry we up of pricing through You fourth XX% additional should segments. comes ‘XX. How assuming started XX% both the deceleration. think versus slowdown quarters with think no quarter, to kind in second and some the price I see in average about

Yes.

this your -- out assumption be break in price got we’ve volume. first We’ve impact is year. price versus half our for in. point, going the We got So Rob. is don’t to Michael, certainly of stronger baked the But the obviously to carryover

as mind, as on you’ve but where were we’re quarters early price in our throughout last keep we also from price to thing benefiting has it year the getting seen, well. and the year, down And comping to come

pricing got type is in XXXX. on comp look a environment of what as that’s we So right, going year we forward, you there. we’re the same the But saw in expecting not certainly

guidance our as that got into we’ve baked So well.

Right.

of how of amount of guess if Okay. that by I the appreciate could at all realized on in comment you that’s sense similarly the being and that’s January manufacturers -- at any I the on price, the that. price being increase point? just the topic industry And this

Mike, Robert. it’s

on good traction So increase. the

obviously have well. it definitely think earlier about material communicated builders value I as is tight. manufacturers that. that loose-fill relative to recognize goes back the that The still I the to labor, talked And

in And you know, here supply as on coming we new know no all ‘XX.

loose-fill maintenance going that about going impact definitely some even we is by capacity to as that’s be So of talked the multifamily on again, kind to well us how constrained the that side. mix. as industry in will And happen

the see XXXX. we remaining material here in So tight

over And one seen you’ve you of about the term improvement the but again. decremental/incremental, pretty the guidance extent been bit. margin just back at I little your last struck trades think consistently obviously more on one guess, nice same pushing builders long you’ve when loosen the decremental last talking several where value conceptually, that provide, years. a or that have are, Great. things I but Obviously, towards time there’s a to the the just you margins have Okay. up about, kind a guess,

to a you about TruTeam in for with any started being customers? years builder hundred your higher think margins And example, few we of those several how should conversations Have have than current basis points today, ago?

Yes, start well. I’ll anything Mike, I’m as add Robert. with Rob on sure will and this,

sure it’s a At So cost our the and and same proper the industry, trades. about the make less I don’t hold is work talked the after to of than right, of we’ve get other home. inspection what before before if that about in it it you all -- total important others to think up time, mean, X% you

stuff, think recognize of So given labor the I of of I package, the and the our again, the material think that, think also, think that component I realization I value. tightness given builders

things codes even And making we’re make sure I are are sometimes to passing tougher changing, things it’s also inspection. that the think

So that’s I recognized. think

I to recognized. think be value continue the will

be in That’s think to forward if be be people perspective. that their think air in And of typically which of tax can still pocket, to well. brief, home forecast that a material ], given tailwinds even about multifamily, blowing again, nobody material of here tight. loose-fill could there some looking margin [ from is their to still tightness could as mix given timing be tight to reinsulate going incentives the in you we people think you industry some would I say Labor as and And that for exactly continue the the industry, so Labor that’s if repair/remodel the ads there will if trends going an XXXX. right? even will given maintenance from tight drive in about

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As I earlier. earlier, about as mentioned talked we

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Mike, Yes, this is Rob. and

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comes of the Zelman. Baumgarten Our with next from question line Adam

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comes question Capital with the Jeff Stevenson Markets. of next from Our Loop line

nice Congrats quarter. on the

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Jeff, this is Robert.

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line Trey of with question Grooms next comes Our Inc. from the Stephens

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question next from our comes And of the Credit with Dan Oppenheim Suisse. line

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