TopBuild (BLD) 31 Oct 232023 Q3 Earnings call transcript

Greetings, and welcome to the TopBuild Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Tabitha Zane, Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you, Tabitha.

You may begin.

morning. good and you, Thank

On the Executive President Chief Robert today and Rob are Officer; Officer. Buck, Kuhns, and call Chief Financial

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areas emphasis testament continued hard our on our strategic business. focus operational multifamily Our and to on of our strong our work, excellence results improvements growing well as and are team's perseverance all throughout as and commercial driving work

in from earlier actively work. and revenue efficiencies contracting volume basis commercial XX.X%. Total our margin points single-family To single-family XX%, EBITDA the our successfully to the results, expanded margin adjusted decline, able sales months basis points grow XXX year. segment have Reviewing and gross has the and drive expanded for to X.X% X quarter our multifamily targeted light branches the offset XXX was X.X%, up and third starts our despite Installation in were our has to slowdown

our commercial heavy bidding branches winning dedicated share and our are fair front, installation solid commercial their activity up strong are the On already building backlog. reporting projects, of

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job our to identifying overall demonstrate. attractive teams distribution normalize, and volumes As doing a as continue our areas new building residential of results nice are of growth,

are We X.X% increase sales a industrial and commercial in channels. from our pleased to see

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allocation are capital generate front, pro acquisitions, which almost forma on of we've basis. the completed million $XXX X to year expected year-to-date, revenue a On full

our Insulation, acquisitions generating we fabricator these revenue. or intention and revenue. custom generating close is insulation residential Insulation, Specialty of the XXXX. special through regulatory going acquire expect completed million One North specialty currently approximately approximately This commercial markets, and annual insulation installer American residential transaction building and in a industrial, million we of $XXX SPI, was review, to announced a distributor and In July, month, mechanical this to to end distributor a Panhandle of and Products also $X.X in annual

process is once transaction closely the integration the closes. working smooth ensure SPI to with are the folks We

about with to first a across a improvements and and TopBuild. the that and identify organization. further This be and got well in months, know the efficiencies operational increased. only potential entire our transaction team we've systems chain our our XX SPI onto focus to this will team aligns integrating strong supply even SPI company well-run has culture better, As the of operations has our confidence

the cost months. are very targeted $XX will million run XX we achieve $XX over million confident We rate we've to the first of synergies

Looking ahead, for companies insulation commercial prospect M&A robust for remains mechanical our specialty and installation and residential pipeline distributors.

evidenced capital our allocation remain on return from generating, priority, report increased as far, to our another are return X.X% XX.X% which capital, quarter, we #X XXXX invested to to by active year the will going our increased guidance, shareholders, XXXX. In We remain forward. very our expect all great in greatest summary, fronts X and third discuss. on by Rob by which on had as solid Acquisitions at track year-end XXXX a for we evidenced

and to our model continues any execute to team Our TopBuild positions well, Rob? diversified outperform in environment.

Robert, morning, Thanks, good everyone. and

reflection the We another to focused and teams. strong a work report growth, our our of are pleased quarter profitable success strategy the of of continued hard of

net X.X%, to volume. by partially driven Breaking decline X.X%, offset increase net segment's X.X% M&A quarter X.X% a increased of by down, our million, of price third quarter $X.XX that in an Our were and of $XXX.X third billion. Installation sales sales X.X%

multi-family to the strong quarter earlier in we to slower traditional While third did activity due throughout sales year. quarter, this remained increase starts single-family single-family the the not quarter see second

I the occurred quarter single-family May. As beginning sales in as segment in market growth heavy highlight and strength starts was began Installation want for unfolded, both commercial from by end that single-family light activity improving third the driven grew strategy month sales that diversified commercial projects. of the our the to with each line also evident strong in our X.X%,

percentage lower construction residential from participation Distribution's million, we primarily installation due sales sales a Distribution sales smaller larger the year, of on continues X.X% Distribution multi-family, industrial the contractors commercial lower activity as be prior from up quarter. a were to to Specialty service. in prices. were and Specialty channel were down with Specialty X.X% focused X.X% decline net $XXX a

these see margins Third to projects. on quarter multi-family single-family Installations points expanded side. multifamily Normally, are strong commercial the margin efficiencies the gross basis on and by operational we XXX projects similar and larger what and driven XX.X%, on to margins commercial

However, higher on through a recent teams of job outstanding tremendous our margins many execution. have our projects, done delivering

points lower driven segment margin XX.X%, to increased by synergies our last Specialty margin earlier. a XXX-basis Distribution the International. XX.X%, adjusted X.X% improvement segment million, of was Adjusted discussed point gross for EBITDA XX.X%, and realization Third our adjusted our from continued Despite and EBITDA from year. of of was margin acquisition an compared point a Distribution margins productivity XX-basis $XXX.X quarter XXX delivered sales, EBITDA up Installation EBITDA and to improvement basis

income by Adjustments $X.X from business. our net and expense a to interest to hand. small than million costs interest year $X.X our loan related variable higher prior term non-core million and higher were was on primarily was on the disposition and cash income acquisition-related offset expense than of income Other lower as more opportunistic

For adjusted XX.X% diluted $X.XX, quarter, a were the per year. earnings prior share increase from

balance points lower sheet and XX.X%, of year flows, our ago. a to a than Moving trailing basis as working sales capital XX-month percent XX cash was our

year-to-date CapEx flow helped year of have We this with our line $XX.X get in approximately revenue. to year-to-date to million, guidance and cash this to year operating past working drive XX% capital over prior our XX% September increase XX%, million. long-term $XXX.X in from has of X.X% worked was hard

to net debt cash $XXX.X with we third $XXX.X at year-to-date, to million. In We billion, ended leverage X.XXx. million $X.X Total was trailing addition, million revolver liquidity XX, $XXX.X XXXX, an of including and the acquisitions. have of of EBITDA accessible XX September allocated months quarter

annual guidance. Moving to

with guidance accordingly. to quarter adjusted expect XXXX close out have We fourth strong a and

mid-single sales year, industrial between and low revenue the increase billion, on Breaking the commercial expected down, high will digits. a the of residential million are is end revenue We flat projecting the $XXX be billion to total a and same-branch to end. up be million range be $XX for XXXX relatively that $X.XX on increase $X.XX same-branch and and

raised the the on be $XX We increase increase have a adjusted to and guidance on million our low XXXX $X.XXX end between the range and $X.XXX also billion, EBITDA million $XX for end. a high billion of

long-range unchanged. modeling are Our targets

call closing the for turn back to Robert remarks. now will I

Thanks, Rob.

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line the from comes Rehaut with question JPMorgan. Mike of first Our

guess, wanted some results. on improving focus improvement -- of -- I new from second mentioned you during from, quarter. trends single-family of res the first the Congrats quarter the that you the saw I of the in some kind to

was around shaping -- up trended how multifamily and matter, as lot -- you non-res, any thoughts if at on and year-to-date, any that the of 'XX. Given the kind of views I there's how obviously, first least a had the first your 'XX? of volatility curious And through half least early and is But market. the single-family, that's views early in for half currently are at of on for shaping market

Mike, morning Robert. it's Good

out year as going first slower up as builders The through we mentioned, the the the next So ending as on be about we the single-family quarter we continue saw think optimistic. we progressed started single-family pick year. to public activity quarter, into quarter side

You've hear their we what looking and of call. are well. That's as growth heard them Majority it for see from on them next year.

Some of But starts to and into more you out a May some single that heading pickup that year. forward. expect heading say, right saw June flat little more, coming builders, and the family talking QX, carry in in of smaller we of next given QX I'd now,

are backlogs definitely, perspective, as very think but carries We say healthy. into multifamily XXXX a demand slightly, well. still down that we From

as So single-family We'll into QX. And up QX, what we see think QX starts as XXXX. be get happens that the bellwether with we remain will the finish positive. overall, I we of here

price or that capacity increases capacity moderately or Great. that the the to industry Great. matter, to X you a ability might secondly, what that. for either more just do pricing backdrop, for availability anticipate improving of significant that think I insulation pricing has perhaps XX about planned over or how guess, XX months? next change push the appreciate the change X and, or in industry or in currently any next I product, and No, might months, you the impact extent stable through let's say, when

Yes.

the given tighten had QX, So QX that's going materials the manufacturer And allocation really now think and in one definitely market. least documenting we driven, at in supply maintenance that's as we I remarks, finished mentioned across industry. on the in the with as

into gets X think So I dynamics.

You've of that and have starts got And again, manufacturers single-family the lot announced. maintenance, which then, kind bellwether will a point. planned of be maintenance

we think the possibly I QX, are So maintenance tight definitely to given single-family schedule. starts a single-family as continue head here if material up, maintenance And and as and stay growing, into we XXXX from see grow. you curve that QX again, into keeps see perspective into

question Kim next Stephen comes of line Our Evercore from with the ISI.

Appreciate Yes. it.

up of clean a Mike those that to couple Just just asked.

regarding all, high the at we're industry as with in being the have than would XXXX, what planned. in sense rebuild level higher least is of year of XXXX agree across Curious whether we're to rebuilds a first going of the could our not the that of you which to normal that offset an So capacity fiberglass normal? you additions relative or comment to expecting on that, rebuilds, to If just is. the sort magnitude are unusually

X.X% single And from commercial, the was spec just and drag to talking And sort offset volume? that get from just about XXX I'm so, commercial a equal then of back the decline you regarding about your being whether and multifamily to the recovered in drag light sense. you wondering single-family business that family the does points, basis that light mean saw referenced? if distribution multifamily strictly by

it's of that the I'll the and part first rebuild Stephen, side. material on Robert. take

a average, QX enough we're in above for and heading what into industry little seeing So the XXXX. think it and I rebuilds yes, scheduled the is

down the exactly of when rebuilds Some nailed manufacturers start. haven't those

So hard on. it's that say does coming with to the kind what capacity of

if we're that improve, those stay those to in on at some that single-family number around continues comes sometime finished. new comes we capacity manufacturers, always, rebuilds the close QX. and QX to start could have think into on, capacity reminder given that. new early see and of end as XXXX, of just you to get yes, start until a But least insight staying year rebuilds material that tight good the And And I

Yes, Stephen, Rob. and then this is

of growth ballpark on question just I'd the able that really The that terms saw saw Distribution in the what of decline the On been Specialty the for show there. do we And growth. say single-family mid-single in that around install digits multiple you're quarter was on offsetting talking part definitely we goes side. side right? side, there saw decline the second that installed we with to business your in the completely avenues commercial. the multifamily by we've of were this we for you to about here What and in

that talked commercial unusual. were the of drove comment margins And crest single-family, and a could talked about and of then about the it multifamily half maybe bit and you if commercial than in little multifamily. encouraging. the seeing Okay. multi, That's is fact a become into, a think, wondering think reasonable given demand of midyear that little you rather carrying that was those in multifamily I on And in in in I stronger to that's you what next higher But back and we're starts maybe might headwind XXXX? also year. bit middle the margins

Yes.

at anticipating we we points had in these last the complicated little we margins, on. to probably as the operationally side of to QX, on bit a things, I family. going more about $XX we million similar bid margin about about And back multi-family single had on lot be maybe quarter benefit, these to a out bid QX, to projects performance, the commercial of some early we side, back it, of projects, meant as Stephen, mentioned just XX larger, happen. We But average, due -- well in that your these talked basis projects -- So is both question on that inflation.

it, jobs. we've points, those that. had XXX in another call benefit And very million well from about $XX probably So of basis here performed we on QX,

guidance into and culture part baking But We're levels. continue achieve our it's into baking to going our forward. guidance constant -- of forward. not moving it's something certainly not So that of try benefit to improvement we're to our those we're

Thank you.

Our line Ahlersmeyer Deutsche next Joe the comes of question from with Bank.

outlook commercial and business from Congrats results. weakness potential industrial I'm thinking backlog within If indicators revenue next about some markets going end the year-over-year curious reflection the certain strong and think if industry year? and you held the a on the just guide you showing about flat. and I in could just there's commercial, might others forward, some the you commentary talk the about leading sales the of is that have purely be commercial into there opportunity And now but how we just

Robert. it's Joe,

I think what it just doing. the and the field really speaks to what we've teams built in are

And So that of the we're as our work, as we we at to looking type mentioned, we're of we're projects. to as business well mix agnostic what as bidding. bid

bandwidth. us gives it So lot of a

the really -- commercial if just then do think light reminder, dedicated branches majority our look our that I that. So which do at residential -- our of and work commercial branches of a our work, all you heavy

rolled see share we it's I'll perspective. that of that of business. And a So industrial, to from part of and that future. across Lead that examples. sales heard the App continuing a is area really add light, honestly, the heavy, today, really give you business industrial exists quite us that business the in. is sales in across business our then the leads really part in together across about to force. bringing being growing talk we're as that here #X, out fabulous We're One our that's -- -- couple talent tool investing tool commercial, And you've the for we're

optimistic there, we on industrial. about to I think commercial growth outperform and it's that any and model So ability the in confident environment our really based we're we're the -- of around built

of footprint DI you more consolidation acquisition. or a the really also remarks this reduction as consolidation cost said my co-locating this don't I sounded a -- think mentioned of the around branches. not the part effort. the you in effort, sales something then of And piqued is great. interest That's like prepared It expansion

I do of talked this in pursue but that strategy? sense this First, is incremental advance, understand can be that to extensively maybe that it difficult quantify you're what then us to And it you've going I certainly have right a give about? sort of would how you

Yes.

look as improvements there we think we opportunities, get of round So we said you're DI cross-selling we here delivered -- a we And after we that across did earlier, after when and those incremental. really thought we there's opportunity the first acquisition, great synergies you're it's on. -- and that were right,

great is the a a it yes, the Partners, footprint we DI, Service think we're as So of X look best great of great now leveraging opportunity where we footprint across. with

on, early identified, call quantify I'm to it, be bases. customer we have we'll looking great XX think forward we've we And I'd to move that going but your to say locations X, hard with. be And this will X, point, existing where to

better, Now grow serve areas would in we and we them the capitalize those can footprint that upon. we given will

Our of Research next comes Ken Partners. question from the with Zener Seaport line

Good morning, everybody.

side, recurring guys if commercial you end if how that what business, distribution on the been talk as helping well talk maintenance demand that to something you to can As that's kind has the of market, with repair relative SPI that and today? percent you Focusing could that piece is? whatever market of like acquisition, the is about the

Yes.

And to think of probably it about the of So the future about that revenue. up Distribution revenue today. XX% about of that's then we as Specialty gets that SPI, X/X Ken, with today,

Partners, of around that safety and to it and you stabilizing those think the really think SPI, goes business, really We mechanical refineries, and beverage, it's about maintenance about build you food the great as of to some yes, Service something of we'll or it's and on we a repair that PPE requires whether the is the across that continue insulation whether conditions DI such recurring regular is So and those some upon. exposed it part business, piece some extreme of products. think types items think a things of

year. quarter was we And had just point prior Ken, mean, X.X% Specialty side there, numbers but one out to Distribution. one also thing commercial it growth, for the the on day those for I less than on

as we comping quarter. a As well tough pretty were

Specialty average in really, was commercial a industrial record Distribution quarter. side, So this for sales daily the for the us

there. So a really quarter strong

that how sticking with X, And just be down these -- it's that mean, Is it comps? year? looks in you imply up like up an I year. next terms might Rob, we should that, X. comp last Or does Yes. been of down then easier think X, against X that going down perhaps

Yes.

industrial But year I not tell because numbers comp I'm side. up sure there I on this side, Specialty here, going for it's on would think the the we X% be each We basis, into year you, on a fourth on the sure quoted pretty you Distribution I a commercial, Specialty around quarter there. side. quarter the think same-branch last Distribution can tough grew the

quarter So a do slow typically, And side, on a insulation fourth quarter. the pretty mechanical bit. tough the down things

little is activity bit slower, a especially the in So December.

then strikes, faced, you're to is the with side the what's All I flattening piecemeal auto your not obviously, to indicating margin business. would talk price issue about the got, be to different out. just pressures kind you therefore, labor contracting. you that for right. But is happening. gas? of know that's price, But Obviously, relative leverage guess, guys. you on We it your the operating inflationary the And Can don't material your of pool, still labor, labor seem that an tight, relative

Ken. Yes,

more with in has It's to particularly been seeing the they right. side, we price front, pushed been definitely the So a is material about. the productivity. slow of with of money increase out. mean, which that we the The workforce was you're sauces their the really them, our more the side, side. do on get secret The can the them pay we of announced make fact inflation on one of the where And piece to the after at our install labor make ours, on us success, on And I that we care on incentives that down week, can productive they QX all can that what majority right? rate align allows end sits.

offsetting well of I productivity really as inflation forward that that, And better done has job job with of we've price. continue side moving nobody good think, labor we'll as do as a to and So a that done on well.

Thank you.

Adam question the Baumgarten Zelman. Our of comes next line with from

You given that mentioned kind potentially be of price risk the not realized in ] being product out. demand? that pushed manufacturers? Do [ uptick that of the realized, at having at expect least was to you is from still lines increase insulation Or the just

Adam, it's Robert.

maintenance I out think a earlier, that little close the that I wasn't always it's it's much probably been we've coming. traction as about we hard in -- we think about And has in -- pushed and talked But to and ongoing and better talked manufacturers tightened October, before, that here traction to and to the the say up got some have September. as stay given discussions. again, the relative

Got a mean I since few That's And been guys just announced SPI, it's the now deal. it. helpful. then on months you Okay.

Just starting see the benefits under in you're hood any as to incremental that here? the of you get business kind

planning, and closer with other side, would leadership confidence it's say there. continues really, strengthen. team there the the that and we've team business, what we there. rise do integration gotten just a team as and is Great mean, team as What I including obviously, level is on the how as the great to can just there we look our well throughout operations would

integration, about leverage, those grow tools, things. as about things confidence that So systems like, continues we to our looks I types talk think what of

confidence remarks, our prepared there to So strengthen in with think our I acquisition. that continues heard it you

from the Phil Jefferies. next question Ng of with line Our comes

how question year we to volume early think a have going should this on about quick cadence year. next I the through

starts Robert, You mentioned, single-family quarter. through that pickup in started kind of later the single-family -- in flowing the

multifamily effectively next single have maybe all bottomed out and by I lag then an similar high early starts we could a mean right all-time year? And on this But on appreciate, at there's year, the inflection here, family completion. dynamic see an So we volumes side, now. to

it the impact kind we relates there's right as around on next multi-family now? year, because you for multi-family some concerns certainly of should to So completions expect demand on just what side,

Yes.

Rob. is this So,

a there. side things, at I'd volume we've on kind the flattish So probably as fourth that's put it a looking you into guidance with flattish you same-branch we're year-over-year quarter out basis. look of volume, say the flattish at perspective, from back of if there, price on And

So the comes but the some there. quarter. that jump also not fourth up side, seasonality single-family a in significant the anticipating improvement on usually We're

we optimistic far has. that's things last optimistic multifamily, we single-family will And into it of when of move that cautiously we'll there. we us to And then as Obviously, in to to definitely But How that going your to into improve play next February. year. continue we've how as we're and interest got that. with year, the we're out the next to see point, impacts cautiously have on talk going we definitely our it's guide into last next to feel year, backlog make part you rates

meaningful see mean, where guess, about but here? it things, And more -- if you're in versus And on seeing pricing any you little your think from in I spray margins fiberglass? a way, slippage color impact the any Any there? risk I a pressure, impact way do in you more side perhaps didn't of pricing, down bit, of your distribution on was impact

Rob. this Phil, Yes, is

So and in foam gutters. saw say driven pressure there quarter the the I'd we by was spray primarily

price I so to give And the we maintain the we mentioned, you certainly I anticipate move keep we're it's on worse best our our are. our from as into and as up QX, something anything on don't it And recover where side, to eye going on. material we think side. margins significantly do we'll But getting

of question comes the Noah line Stephens. next Merkousko from with Our

installation just in guess, the got So to directions lot know even we installation do a some guess amount been greater first, but the pricing should of Installation I different versus distribution. on I X power that pricing see availability these there's talk forward, you've should segments moving a about here, price to distribution? on continue material expect increase, if segment -- pricing I compared in we outperform higher that of going

Noah. good morning, Yes, Robert. It's

well in install Again, you we productivity distribution that work as the some about saw do sales would And continue spray just the to business. I Rob that again, [ the foam and than in as quarter. mentioned talked side, pressure more there what on to on pricing. side -- think ] team place look some at put obviously, I productivity. would the about And gutters know I So happened tools labor where of we that side, fiberglass that, the we the efficiency, the some of

think on what to the as to that demand I more the plays we'll of improvements business, heading tighter the think see the see we're noted and and and in you'll relative getting that, the the rest I how operational mentioned, happens see But the see efficiencies I into team continue quarter, out now So XXXX. for And Rob to year but we curve pricing work, we'll in have here. material side. here

this distribution speaking, is little historically I stickier and I'd install of that. side tends Rob. add mean, to side than price just it to the on a is the No, just on be things.

allocation Got And versus thinking How share helpful. capital one about repurchases? it. follow-up, M&A turn. you low, That's balancing then here, towards below leverage really my are on

Yes, Noah, this is Rob.

there strategy really unchanged, our say. mean I'd is I So

that range about in pro this You of which X.XXx, on have layer comfortable forma Xx right is Xx quarter we're that in in. SPI, our a to basis been targeted net debt would

focus landed for from So going on while definitely we higher. sitting going a us we're to we allocation. continue road little -- see that just we're bit I quarter, capital think SPI here, to where the And lower so down with the

Our that's to obviously, prioritize to stock and strategy then right? well. our continue buybacks, at evaluation evaluate an today, M&A think And to we attractive as opportunity there is

continue the to evaluate like we past. both, in So we'll have just

line Our next Jeff Stevenson of Markets. question Capital the Loop with from comes

nice Congrats on quarter. the

commercial growth. slow? And just commercial your talk to back And change in you you've healthy could half had as another the installation seen leading activity of some any started the you more reported we about high-single-digit year success indicators volume wondered you've through quarter if the whether growing have the So installation business. as of of move bidding I

Robert. is this Jeff,

as one just, space I'll commercial hit that as several on So again, space. Number that. points heavy light and in commercial to well the industrial is we're

that after do And and that, commercial doing light residential it. markets. a we our staying job bidding really can of all cover of work, all So the end they're branches fabulous

operational in on of continue growth commentary Heavy that, commercial, as as And look driven that, which well. think to make I improvements just we we've his we also hit Rob that. in investments. We've not across driven some

to add sales continue talent. We

some about talk cross-selling us opportunities. heard You

is about we've to investment in Lead tool, App business heard a business. made which our You've our major -- proprietary our really to exclusive

the I we've our got drivers think are on. focused those So team

of Our dives team into this avenues multiple growth. really

built results so the that piece business And through in and think what and in we coming our again, you the of see forward, going here. I this confidence

to sense. expectations? makes business then given better wondering I'm to any That than adjustments Understood. with your your if you capital-light prior make continuing in hold Okay. had workforce demand model, And to

we're in efficiencies I change mean No. the No workforce. always driving there.

that So outlook. performance But lot driven the margin seeing and that business. again, that the was you work of no to by given a continued things the and some see our back nice adjustments, of efficiencies we're in we growth

Garner Reuben of from comes The with the line Benchmark Company. question next Our

been already, asked Most questions have one one. have quick but just of I my

lot into risk and of particular the about you in and kind up? 'XX, a talk -- of you to about tight of areas any areas, availability some commercial mechanical remain pricing Can more fiberglass be availability. expect at trends any that could that anywhere of you talk ones loosening So that

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