TopBuild (BLD) 6 Aug 242024 Q2 Earnings call transcript

Greetings, and welcome to the TopBuild Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions].

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profits. for a us both line delivered sales Good with morning, and thank you second solid line bottom joining and quarter today. TopBuild segments top growing

of our delays, considering anticipated. of have driving project operational for interest result longer even on profitable across focused businesses, Our higher than all stayed housing and various the teams demand growth uneven both commercial in originally rates improvements

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billion realized benefited pricing, acquisitions. to of increased Sales our as X.X% from $X.XX to Turning and volumes results. both grew our segments

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margin to QX related year's last multifamily estimated commercial $XX million Excluding and benefit business. in our

margin XX.X%, of the work operations result Our team. continued which was is incremental special our same-branch EBITDA by excellent a

margin When quarterly both our adjusted benefit EBITDA delivered our business the well. and this in This fundamentals year, highest the for history sales demonstrates of last we margin in our performing history. are adjusting the highest

the fiberglass On material certain in commercial side, are tight products and still supply.

constrained a situation. quarter, doing Our are great this we the growth while saw our teams growth through by And was volume segments supply. managing material supply in both job

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slowed. see multifamily year-over-year to continue has We bidding work, growth although in

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distributing business, the engineered products specialty insulation our distribution standard services insulation from the solutions. fabricated, range mechanical to On of side custom

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provide also and We installation for interior systems. other ductwork mechanical

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anticipate early we continue XXXX. the this now Given work will into on delay, project our

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one we'll center much short, data insulation. to be buildings, as In project feet as million. of of providing be $X these over million XX,XXX can revenue total For our $X just our for linear TopBuild

continues work of well backlog into Our secured projects to related centers with to grow data XXXX.

priority. allocation. One installation Moving a strong totaling track In #X made core TopBuild, shareholders. in last returns to the that end expands capabilities an annual acquisitions in $XX of M&A continue insulation is core business. have capital we've and months, Acquisitions of million annual Texas acquisitions May $XXX a locations geography, and our great team foam of approximately X talented revenue. be important acquisition and we growing with rapidly competency generating for our our million With Insulation's demonstrating execution XX the to record make closed spray to Texas at was recent sales. into our in ability

evaluating and end numerous all we as pipeline is team ever, acquisition markets is X as potential serve. candidates across M&A our busy Today, our strong

to our core core While total addressable our remain and insulation potential the on market. competencies we're focused always evaluating opportunities expand leverage our have we to

and which $X last confidence we the approved demonstrates $XXX outlook. new quarter, quarter, approximately business our in share second repurchase Board announced As Board's to we returned In a program. the management our billion million shareholders,

detail, our changes reflection speak part the to for than press revising this guide the rather but the in As is, are our in business. XXXX. morning, you in more outlook Rob of we demand large any revision of in release will underlying timing saw a

and quarter very supply In delays navigate summary, and project another we performed solid tightness. demand, of we posted as business growth, our well uneven

Rob? strong are and shareholder deliver We we'll year value. another of confident increased profitable growth

of teams history, both a as another you we billion, Thanks, their segments our delivered year-over-year $X.XX grew Robert, for basis. to sales quarter. X.X% as quarter and solid net and M&A, sales sequentially on up X.X% X.X%. grew Total effort a price in increase of driven the highest the offset X% thank our while primarily to foam lower fiberglass by was a partially was carried that from on due year. Price disposition last by and drove quarter price gutters first increase, prices spray over

Net both to and and grew sequentially basis, year-over-year segment to sales single-family for the M&A X%. as segment net X.X% The $XXX installation X.X% On X.X%, multifamily X.X% Residential strong a a our volume added to due to was for basis, million. and grew sales on by added pricing sales sales installation improve, continued homes backlog. continued up be

to shifts project availability. commercial installation material The timing and X.X% down sales segment's in due were

Net X.X% Commercial grew sales X.X%. X.X%, Distribution demand and Specialty million each and while distribution sales contributed but acquisitions for to pricing $XXX X.X% the single-family in residential X.X%. grew for to segment grew also quarter. improved the Specialty industrial Distribution second sales for Volume by improve. continue homes

margin, In the points million last delivered than $XXX.X second was XX% quarter, we year. lower gross which of or basis XXX profit a

commercial from over a onetime high our discussed last had and projects. second of million XXXX on margins multifamily As $XX benefit than approximately quarters, we've normal margins quarter several the

basis declined margin versus gross primarily XX year, this, the to due last impact acquisitions. points Excluding of

over XX.X% sales, year. prior expense was a second improvement Our basis point adjusted of XX SG&A quarter

or $XXX.X quarter TopBuild adjusted a of million margin EBITDA the in second XX.X%. totaled

both $XX $XX had million segment of Specialty and installation same-branch The a an point to EBITDA the Distribution basis last EBITDA margin excluding year, benefit year. segments. improved And productivity million our points XX.X%, last basis in Excluding benefit XX year-over-year adjusted adjusted margin margin EBITDA margin adjusted pricing points, our gains XX XX EBITDA was from expanded and after margin the rose by incremental driven XX.X%, XX.X%. expansion basis

expense due higher from million and income $X.X diluted year. Other in cash balances. quarter X.X% the per than million earnings from was share the quarter, to totaled Adjusted in year interest of last last $X.XX $XX higher down income

cash revolver million includes million. was of at end, our total million last $XXX.X and of had at end our EBITDA. million, XX debt $XXX.X $XXX.X $XXX.X and of months X.XXx of leverage now the Net availability quarter flow. liquidity Turning sheet to was and our under the quarter adjusted We which cash the balance ratio

of a points was sales year XX time. as this compared at XX.X% in percent basis to the quarter, down last capital Working

working has risen While it as we lower we capital year-end have since time, is than a year to it this at ago inventory hand. due availability ensure to material that on was work

versus trailing cash $XXX.X flow $XXX.X million million, increase Free months XX.X% of year. last the for an XX totaled

on an $XXX earlier, all XX totaled priorities To date, in remain basis #X more to months. the we've Our for have totaling acquisitions revenue. clear. And continues million capital of X as be priority $XXX million in revenue annual acquisitions our noted XXXX, reinvestment. completed for than last Robert annual M&A

to average price we $XXX.X repurchased allocation quarter, totaling capital an Our And of in of $XXX million end per the X.XX second capital authorization. share, million. returning At under approximately June, remain the shareholders. priority had at the million $XXX.X is shares we

prioritize repurchases. You to be our pipeline with M&A to to continue our and us can expect share opportunistic

to Finally, outlook. our turning

to the in revising prices the are sales billion. by markets, the M&A partially guidance reflects higher million We from midpoint year increase. This our billion fibeglass full $X.X of demand, second offset in choppiness at primarily $XXX price recent reduction commercial our to and $X.X

into half of the of will this still XXXX. the While be growth demand year anticipated strong, likely some pushed is had second we

to XXXX industrial. sales and in residential expect now expect growth commercial we continue We single-digit and digits, mid-single low grow to

is EBITDA the tightened profitable year-to-date $X.XXX in at and ability also billion, as which well billion team's confidence guidance as $XX to performance $X.XX our a improvements. to continue and reflects lowered drive productivity of range to to our reduction of our $X.XXX have solid -- million growth We profit midpoint and a

The the want million had also multifamily of move in margin be year-over-year benefit and $XX discussed margin quarter I quarter impact XXXX profit the a you and for remind the $XX to full million forward. considered remaining as we commercial this year. third should that we impacted comparisons onetime million $XX

and job Our continue a macro for and we're future teams support balance date, Robert? about opportunities business. long-term for our outlook to of growth excited great the fundamentals confident the about We're our our have done as to year.

the of and questions, open The growing supportive to let strong macro our are up of a call final business of for we demand fundamentals future. make foreseeable Before me comments. the couple

and approach in a improvements allocation have well. a disciplined business business continuous differentiated a model, capital the driving on focus and We executing proven

we're strong deliver another record growth. profitable free shareholder will We have a we of year delivering value, of track and strong confident

my hard across focus our and drive each safe. business. consistently to by customers other for Let and gratitude improvements Thank execute efforts me to our their expressing your on our you for servicing keeping close team work, dedication,

With for questions. that, operator, ready we are

[Operator Instructions].

line from with Stephen of comes the question Kim Evercore. first Our

by surprised call the overall all the they in Appreciate bit color. thought look we a were all there results your I this a at were we be issues out? we at any curious, quarter, might bit When price quarter, to stronger. realization was little mix the

I indicated also, that thought if commercial really, year. low be for in then you the you that get think industrial your for I segment. you guidance, think the single the And the said reason And guidance this might digits up full is reduction you that, that

to down? that Just industrial trend a something back like and commercial flat clarify, does invasion towards that Or does in to in more wanted half? of positive the trend year-over-year

is this Rob. Stephen,

probably foam. base. to So overlapping about on on last That the both in price spray the a some overall remember our for there part gutters and had important around the of on are we we X% accounts year there first headwind quarter of is second decreases about question price,

company, the the into coming think about feel overall, in second quarter. that price we I first the the I For happened good quarter mean increase

in million got gross I think around the that's reflected while year-over-year, the down points that you've -- we've out XX%, remember last XXX at multifamily. our $XX our called profit basis ultimately in year to

the when XX.X% in So XX% pretty where we much year, with last adjust year to so a ago. that, for you line were a comparing

ever is the the highest XX%. look If gotten company, history third time our you in has I XX.X% like this over is of think the

good price we realization pretty there. So feel about the

things. and Mineral Aerogel low for really is is digits around We've fiberglass from project biggest perspective supply on both delays. On our your of guidance. like Wool well. on a some volume the distribution probably We've issues project products had choppiness we've install commercial, and seen guidance side that of chain change seen products some in and with as single the around guidance question some and some the the the

some definitely So choppiness there.

So we're that. lowering

year-over-year imply in So per breaking some first low the digits growth low commercial single-digit but not se, it from half. does down and of implies a second half the for if it back does, we're take second single it kind and you into half second number, that half, the growth

in point, half first too, an as original it as and as So improving year that's second our see we much commercial. to the see see it the well don't resi really We think, in We prior guidance. improving year-over-year as is that improving just we I important the half. had both

Yes, that that. is very helpful. I appreciate

to related margins. the question Second

You that I ongoing if margins a strong did was we I mentioned your teams. you talk could think you about see. very and just encouraging recognize outlook your remarks opening were, curious how was your your that elaborate, and definitely in reflects about productivity from to

in very in a, it I guess, also has team, out productivity. which a special have the been past call You called ops you important generating

guidance you guidance. you XXXX? Historically, your including have included Just the those in not Are to your ops want results for it from special in team now clarify.

back $XX I on or a is sales included to it's on how your much Yes. right? to it's we've EBITDA that really smaller in the are, here. million have sales number, $XX bigger have lower guidance long-term What productivity, depending $XX included half the It incremental in say of that because not be on number you guide big same-branch million to really, if could change a percentage we $XX in past that a X% million change. would million sales can million said much a $XX much of that going it's

year. included what included the for that, definitely So this half it's we've back we of in included haven't guide our but got in

comes of Susan question with line from Maklari the Sachs. next Goldman Our

about could that as the or Can and through of you Thank Good across in you're strength morning, is, been terms My come weakness about some It's there's seeing half? regional different more everyone. family. talk first that mentioned you. back been a you you the single shifts more uneven question where how the think markets. maybe perhaps bit

Robert. It's

you give I'll So sides. both

right strength, very choppiness. strong that. of uneven of that which Pacific use now. with seen you some still is for is spots, So Southeast some California, if support publics even term say the and at look you the the said definitely as us other support we of use example we've that to Carolinas, Florida, weaker as hear and Northeast. and the even Texas, Northwest I'd or if some numbers good have a that starts well to

good. area of in Arizona if kind city And a like city you I'd then say take Arizona. by an pretty that's been It's

definitely seeing strength. So some

come I as ground it you've back We half. the here those of the seen think regions we in some numbers. of starts those in as long think will of the continue starts improve some see out slower to

about you're a That's to that's and buybacks. the comments capital $XXX use nice that Can about on million any cash? helpful. M&A And also just see Okay. to pipeline you up to the use turning thinking of of to $XXX appetite with the maybe how then your authorization? It's allocation. or continue so so or that talk And million the remaining as

Yes. Susan, I this Rob. is mean,

our call allocation I about priorities a allocation months on remains priority. number capital from of and a in are M&A Robert the our a terms XX added. as we've unchanged. capital deals of mean great had revenue the talked little of #X amount standpoint, We've So bit the

about good right we've feel pipeline healthy in as while, healthy, say, it a now that really so we I'd Our forward. had is very as moving

do As past what that is go, we've to moving here. our done M&A pipeline far buybacks opportunistic we're forward be with continue prioritize the as going and to in

Seaport. of Our Ken the Zener line next question comes with from

lack if wonder which appears not of you could what the material. on normal, I comment is

to growing installation then that the if so I supply might material, say, And unique seeing some let's assume I material foam. not said, And if aren't with much. in is You one-offs. that constrained, to, -- is there's you're think But pricing some spray your contributed is a really about you your, in some that How perspective? of greater you're seems tight? volume suppose, talking constraints. that that low that how why we have I realizing have

it. it's side first the of Robert. Ken, part Yes. material of I'll the take

definitely tight from was fiberglass well. and would availability material no a to QX I maintenance is some still given unscheduled relative some the of say about doubt tighter it. downtime of as suppliers a quarter So given supply

more little side. in little probably in if So from abnormal than work, a second to I'd a stock say was more impacted quarter, on distribution it the party more can probably buy distribution third a install be little need so a the complete

the with of we happening that the of half of applications some given forward, think to that back better We will codes the well year half be some of Lusco materials as used. year. think in that about in and you the of some what's some going alternative If builders, even the expect as the the back does foam help of the be

really coming of a XXXX an heard us capacities about You've talk going more that's type on, event. but of to be

volume price Rob's type earlier, talked there about some we price, about slower of some additional did that job price then but decisions price. I let And covering buys we covering expense the the from I but on on We was to here good point, of -- thing. did any a third-party we make where price, team he may feel like the think add regions think choppiness the feel the covering and of nice we some

is No, -- think Yes. Rob. I as Ken, this

price there. our good So pushed in environment, first increase. We it We've pricing I reflected pretty well about on think the head margins. feel the along that

we're increase working now. through price As a result, fiberglass right the second

half on this the at back that come to year. more So of

of Can what Robert, month choppiness supply on than if assume perspective that's X I your home when of most census the means kind the choppiness Can about in evident play context you higher put within out? under word choppy out homes guys data. I But And kind you is you talk last think of all Great. market. from could the month that's have, that's months whether that to of supply playing going or right, you the context normal. the inventory how industry. in of new wonder units your in put given construction, as how these you just

Yes, Ken.

I'm the talking I the with as of don't of some about units in the me sure, and numbers. start let hear well definition, So kind Rob,

that, earlier I So relative examples question. to a of an couple on gave

Northwest Pacific pick So the example. an let me just on as

start, you need the see you of just So the out ground yet. the work don't coming you the see completion

are especially positive to fruition. just builders positive, it's generally back builders generally So the not production coming for half,

Now you in Southern areas. go build or are may of folks July, some going to even building though continuing still have June those or are another May like sales in California potentially a they example, seen some slower maybe in or to in like they're to Florida, --

out So right, region that's why by things as footprint little choppiness, region. we have it's refer we get where lot And to that's a because of give. that don't play maybe it perspective that folks to region different you're we a

that's the see of we Rob, definition to how of it. anything kind So add?

I mean it there. well think said I Yes. Robert

country about on we quite can really when mentioned, well. seeing commercial of choppiness, and strong the about And supports the parts And talk think quickly the you we're some I side weaker certain in data, it's phenomenon now. as as starts in moving demand that aren't he seeing same right things in see as of we're the where markets others.

still growth So while seeing a from volume we're overall, perspective.

this since the was here This first that same-branch last quarter grow we've of residential first year. the sales quarter first of second quarter quarter, year seen the the our quarter,

quickly guidance in as start year. just things So our not we as up trending the but anticipated to originally had are

of the Our with next Ng from line question Jefferies. Phil comes

of I single-family such This improvement guess a seen Maggie year-to-date. in is strong Phil. for off that we've starts of going question, on

would disconnect that to else So that should But starting in when those I volumes. And there that between cycle do volumes? flow is the know guess, of extend through? have we extended constraints anticipate and And anything are considerations? mindful where be between times starts been I that you your your supply volumes? tempering lag improvement that any

is this Rob. Maggie, Yes,

year, the work. particularly up, Obviously, are I got look right? But you on because this I'd the are at of starts heavy X% about single-family up are first not. up say Completions backlog if year-to-date. had helping single-family year, of to half half first up, remember XX% we support is you last the the multifamily So is our starts think,

first the was half So tougher. comp

that the flattish kind branch of We on half TruTeam side, this the same up in area. of of were year. Our sales first were X%

So we're pretty much completions. in with line

improvement that the that terms like fourth point, third Robert see assuming in should comes its how quickly make here, being we country but your that's into to some across should various quarter comps, starts through, improvement quarter. of and through. third said, in the And really it's stories Now way flowing

improving late that the guidance, what the of So early our that we've based a bit second we've tampered half third have have but second got in baked into little seen do we the down we volumes here on here quarter. year, even quarter,

Maggie, I can look more if -- quarter the interest whether exact the some what the and the And the of probably to like or spooked country, higher different weeks second past have at few think that. in is using it may in thing some parts something choppy people public of rates they're you be you think I builders the

regions slow out the certain ground. of come that So in we're seeing them just it's

Although saw year. of back what into we to Rob's carrying momentum point, you'd of half the expect the the

Okay.

both super impact That's Curious year your recent the that this potentially conversations through cuts anticipating or And but helpful. side. of XXXX? we're you potential then on residential on it's customers later a with rate if more year. had in this development, and lease, Okay. How the later flowing commercial coming

definitely Yes, for conversations agri.

-- and a great and now an November. getting XXXX, side. in think right? off probably, rate positive you a would of about trend. starts I you about time, great XXXX happens would if the a think September, I about say, it's we'll So October, think It's sentiment on it consumer for My perspective, you get should think good and way if a think to cut see what in that, happens, more momentum the that start impacted you lack

line from comes question Rehaut with Michael next JPMorgan. Our the of

This wanted maybe productivity your going into for like I is forward? how think about last Andrew year-to-date maybe these what Rosen initiatives year? versus profitability can And contributed just to to other dive Mike. we and

is Yes. This Rob.

a with Robert it say, of our I'd part number in about call story. ops past we break our always teams it's talked terms working bottom distribution, across mean, of branches. the XXX a install on out, there's I our So huge quartile opportunities. it's but XXX-plus not to about in of what special do With performing a bottom branches, of our and branches network the work on lots and

about talk we're margins lot we and a forward. right, million. as always striving $XX it's because the basis. of to targeted we our in moving typically our So a And do is on But And of not $XX of million margins team. break work a to number quarterly we the of past, that that. that incremental outshoot out

looking the initiatives. you're around of little a bit if color But for

doing of has margins, are relative team focused distribution well. would just in stuff distribution where the we and our can businesses really been say at look mechanical footprint logistics you productivity, special sales optimize productive. to Definitely, which definitely our if So of the we ops and also some

the business, but it definitely of been first XXXX. the benefit and saw we've margins, of work here half we our things in specific both showing that an sides we it definitely area distribution seen continue from we and our distribution I know that see to business So that's

factors you a to are years, maybe the were margins sense. hypothetically, do offsetting kind Makes the And that. X weaker slow maybe kind opportunity on market over of if there to look similar macro, the to how I alongside to of it. could Or Got incrementals? we view appreciate X expect decrementals next considered. then

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we Our after markets going came it's thought back were we pretty to But to strong initially, quickly pretty that. something have work through.

variably it's out chunks that along million decremental. to there that to choppier little a just time. targeting is are to reuse the fixed million because you word, the I come be But a guess, going over be go over a for It's something going come than we long going rather little similar $XX way be range term, they're $XX to type to bumpy question, would of to answer but your that in as just costs

question next of the Our Capital. comes Loop Stevenson line Jeffrey with

you the forward? a more at throughout as and up independent in Just that moving results half the level, housing expect volumes growth high first can builder to quarter widen reduction and to show about talk second trend started the we move in meaningfully half as whether your between back large you installation variance

buy-downs. to I'd big share, we've they do the to -- huge Jeff, the continue take in builders obviously, with lot to grown advantage of That's and them similar data the way. the as rate along with industry them say what shows, with the Yes, a their been market, a ability we to growth see

activity and on any going demand commercial quarter then during you've give where heavy kind you've any second trended the the But the bidding on Okay. delays. in and side, Great. seen projects commercial on the work you your whether slowdown you how And some of color experienced quarter? talked in of about light can

Robert. Yes. Jeff, it's

So and little residential would look, did delays commercial. some better overall, say, it saw And both definitely we I trends. a commercial, light than commercial does follow heavy light heavy project then

saw I performance the commercial say heavy position taken commercial. forward, So we is on I that we share look light as activity And some we've think bidding given And side. some strong, both there. nice in we of think the

project it's at I remarks, you in heard just look taken momentum cancellation, delays. which think well. and the critical some say the on us thing no to these as is I to think as prepared categorize And

is said, more we anything as else. this than timing is, this So

Instructions]. comes line of Stephens. from [Operator with our question Trey the next Grooms

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the I said if Craig, carry you will think 'XX. I current into backlog heard you

been I you've your that's what consistent think expectations said 'XX. about pretty for

to the of directional multifamily how I that for half multifamily mean just we the be back year-over-year. kind that at sort is looks of the any won't in So guess volumes year on down half? look back of as thoughts

significantly, look And XXXX? starts is, that down then what any push the really thoughts second is And being the declines the we're headwind if question yet volume quite of it on like. just does to despite the of could seeing that headwind multifamily that part the for case not kind

No, Yes. is this Rob.

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all through, stuff with project good timing markets. in year. we of looking Again, delays pretty comes the should deal this back you So half if and different in that be

have we'll how our plays So we baked significant multifamily in that a into guidance. see decline to But haven't out.

it. Got

experience year-to-date. on To does eventually I starts question, slowdown ultimately, the XX% We second think seen answer are is right? XXXX, the push part into a your down the start of it I yes, will mean, side, we've

smaller with, smaller take eventually remember So of piece it's per unit, that important it's sales. we about installation of what it's come will XX% our for deal us, just a that to

offset with environment, we to a be hopefully, single-family should able healthy that. So

much more unit The take units. per is on the single-family so

less of for an as less point is shift that impact So to a us.

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quarter Those last occurred of second in No. year. the

today. as about So off uplift back half. a a we we from see are X% roll where the result, And pricing in should those should

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